Re: [Ecrit] Why an applicability statement to framework and BCP is not required

[Richard Barnes <rbarnes at bbn.com>]

> I can't speak for anyone else, but moving forward with text discussions
> to see if there is a compromise statement here seems more likely to get
> us out of these weeds.

Sorry, that was meant to be the more important thrust of my message.

Ted, you've been one of the people arguing that text is needed -- could 
you propose some?

--Richard


> Two cents,
> 			Ted
>
> > Winterbottom, James wrote:
> > > I agree with the people that have said this debate is farcical.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cellular carriers can and do market their 3G services as wireless
> > > broadband. In a number of cases, and I can't believe that it is only
> > > here, services provide open Internet connectivity allowing access to
> > > independent voice service providers (not IMS). When these services are
> > > sold in this manner, they are still cellular, but the carrier is really
> > > just an ISP and the ECRIT model for emergency calling is as applicable
> > > to them as it is for any DSL ISP. Any specific "cellular" emergency call
> > > procedures are not invoked, the carrier by the very nature of the
> > > service they are selling has broken the access-to-voice-service link.
> > > This makes the ECRIT architecture applicable.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The result is that no applicability statement is required in the ECRIT
> > > documents. Indeed, unless specific statements in the 3GPP specifications
> > > are made to say that open Internet services SHALL NOT be provided
> > > through these technologies I can't see how ECRIT is not applicable to
> > > cellular. I can't see 3GPP adding such a statement, and I think that
> > > their primary customers would go up in arms if they did. I propose that
> > > the applicability statement resolution be dropped unless the proponents
> > > of these applicability statements can stand up and say that open
> > > Internet services over 3GPP networks don't happen now and will not
> > > happen in the future or they can point us to a 3GPP specification that
> > > describes how a totally decoupled access and voice service can deliver
> > > an emergency call to the correct PSAP.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > James
> > >
> > >
> > >
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