Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP

[Henning Schulzrinne <hgs at cs.columbia.edu>]

Barbara,

with all due respect, the delay is due to the people insisting that  
the text be added at the last minute. It is clear that the text has  
ulterior motives to restrict the applicability of the document. This  
should be patently obvious from the origin of this whole text-adding  
effort.

Henning

On Apr 28, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Stark, Barbara wrote:

> As such, I continue to support the inclusion of the text. It does no
> harm. It may be useful.
> Some of the people humming against this are exactly the people who I
> thought would want to try to get this document done and finished. I'm
> surprised that they are prolonging our combined agony.
> Since the text is *not* an applicability statement (no matter that our
> illustrious chair may have called it such), and it does no harm, can't
> we please just let the text be and move on?
> Please? Pretty please?
> Barbara
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ecrit-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:ecrit-bounces at ietf.org] On  
> > Behalf
> > Of Randall Gellens
> > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 8:25 PM
> > To: ECRIT
> > Subject: Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP
> >
> > I hum for the text, which doesn't constrain the use of the protocols,
> > but merely describes the assumptions under which it works.  As such,
> > it is useful and helpful.  Even for those who think the assumptions
> > are obvious, it does no harm to state them.
> >
> > We had a lot of debate on this in SFO, and the text in this version
> > was discussed on the mailing list in the days during and following
> > the meeting.
> > --
> > Randall Gellens
> > Opinions are personal;    facts are suspect;    I speak for myself
> only
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