Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP

["Thomson, Martin" <Martin.Thomson at andrew.com>]

Having been the victim of "applicability statement" attacks in the past, let's just say I'm somewhat prejudiced against them.

I also think that we don't need to say what even the dullest of our audience should be able to work out for themselves.

No applicability statement, or whatever Randy thinks this is.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ecrit-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:ecrit-bounces at ietf.org] On Behalf
> Of James M. Polk
> Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2009 7:22 AM
> To: Marc Linsner; ECRIT
> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP
> 
> Marc
> 
> I do not believe the applicability statement is necessary, regardless
> of how well or poor it is written.  The scope of this effort is clear
> - in the IETF community - and this is not an industry view of
> applicability, which is how I believe some are reacting as if it were.
> 
> Were this applicability to remain, then every IETF ID and RFC would
> require one, as I know of no situation in which any communication is
> ever entirely comprised of IETF technologies (i.e., every
> communication has a layer 2 - which the IETF has no charge of - or is
> contained entirely within the same physical entity, in which it is
> rare that maintaining standards based protocols are necessary). There
> may be corner cases that I'm not thinking about - but I believe this
> is generally true.
> 
> Therefore, I hum *no* to add this applicability statement.
> 
> James
> 
> At 01:23 PM 4/24/2009, Marc Linsner wrote:
> ><http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-
> 09.txt>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-
> 09.txt
> >
> >
> >At the San Francisco meeting and ensuing list threads, the last
> >issue around PhoneBCP was whether or not to include an
> >'applicability statement'.  The hum during the meeting was
> >inconclusive.  The draft editor has included text in this latest
> >version in an attempt to compromise on this issue.
> >
> >Please review this version and respond by Friday May 1 to the list
> >as to your acceptance of this change.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Marc, Hannes, & Roger
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