Re: ENUM Privacy (was RE: [Enum] User ENUM vs Operator ENUM)

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com>]

James and all,

  Right!  It is becoming if the current standards track goes on
unchecked, the White Pages and you as a user MUST be
listed in it.

James Seng wrote:

> Repeat after me: ENUM is not a yellowpage.
>
> On 18 June 2004 pm 22:19, Fullbrook Kim (UK) wrote:
> > >> If you live in a real world, and want to communicate with
> > >> Others, you always have to disclose privacy information.
> >
> > I see the underlying issue here being where and how widely that private
> > information is disclosed.
> >
> > Drawing an analogy with basic PSTN landline service.  I'm not sure how it
> > is in other countries but here in the UK you can choose to have your name
> > and phone number included in the regional phone book or you can choose not
> > to (and pay some money not to, but that's a different issue). If you're in
> > the phone book any marketing company can look up your name & number and
> > phone you up to try to sell you something.  (We also have an "opt out"
> > system in the UK to stop unsolicited commercial phone calls but even though
> > it should cut out these calls it does not always work).
> >
> > If I'm concerned about privacy I have a choice about opting out of the
> > phone book and I can be careful who I give my business card to.  Here I am
> > the customer and have control over privacy.  The danger is that an open
> > ENUM DNS is a freely accessible "phone book" and I believe that Telecomms
> > Regulators, especially in the EU would look unfavourably on this.
> > Particularly if Presence and related messaging information was put in there
> > - already we know that IM spam (spim) is a menace. There would have to be
> > access controls and quickly the question becomes: why should anyone display
> > their details except for businesses advertising in a Yellow Pages directory
> > ?
> >
> > To me this is a completely different issue to that of "war dialling" phone
> > numbers which you can never stop, except perhaps make more difficult by
> > adding time delays or cost. The point is whether as a telecomms company you
> > make available a list of your customers irrespective of the naming &
> > addressing scheme used, because having a list means you are making life
> > easier for the spammers and other undesirables. Sorry if this last point
> > upsets someone but the only way forward which acknowledges privacy concerns
> > seems to be "Operator ENUM" and not implementing open "User ENUM".
> >
> >
> >
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