[Enum] Re: [voipeer] voipeer BOF presentations

[Bob Briscoe <rbriscoe at jungle.bt.co.uk>]

David,

Thanks for (most of) slides.

I was planning on attending the BoF... until it was re-scheduled to clash 
with tsvwg where I was presenting. Ugh.

I understand the upshot was a re-BoF was requested for next IETF.

My take (particularly on your slides) is that you can't talk about 
gathering requirements in isolation from what these requirements are being 
gathered for. Before a BoF we need a view on which area(s) the IETF (and 
specifically some new w-g that this BoF is expecting to start) is 
eventually planning on setting standards in. This involves determining 
which standards areas from the pick list you've given will NOT be done in 
the IETF (because there might be better fora).

Finally, given your original charter had the words long-term in it, I 
wanted to share a paper we've just completed on how the long term economics 
of IP QoS interconnect will pan out. It covers:
- where value will be generated, where profits will be eroded and why,
- how QoS will be provided,
- how accountability will be done,
- how the session layer relates to the network and transport layers and 
specifically to QoS.

Commercial Models for IP Quality of Service Interconnect, Bob Briscoe & 
Steve Rudkin (BT), in BTTJ Special Edition on IP Quality of Service, 23(2) 
(Apr 2005). (26pp, 44 refs, 8 figs; pre-print)
<http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/B.Briscoe/pubs.html#ixqos>

Cheers


Bob

At 10:33 04/08/2005, David Meyer wrote:
>         http://www.1-4-5.net/~dmm/IETF/IETF63/VOIPEER/slides
>
>         I'm still trying to collect a few of the presentations.
>
>
>         Dave

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