Re: [Speermint] Re: [Enum] How to correctly set up the request URI?

["Stastny Richard" <Richard.Stastny at oefeg.at>]

>My  original statement about invisibility was that the end user doesn't
>need to specify/know the URI that the SP provides in infrastructure ENUM
>- or even that infrastructure ENUM even exists at all.

ok 

>The issue seems to have evolved to that of how much of the
>infrastructure ENUM tree and its products will be openly visible. This
>is a decision that many parties may have some level of input to.
>National regulators may well be able to veto public visibility if they
>so choose. 

I agree that national regulators may have some saying on what kind
of URIs should be placed in Infastructure ENUM (e.g. none that
jeopardizes the end-user privacy), but I do not see why the regulators
do not want to have the Infrastructure ENUM data not public at all.
 
I already said that a security and privacy section is missing in
draft-ietf-enum-infrastructure

The Infrastructure ENUM data is basically providing a E.164 to SPID 
mapping, and part of this is available on every regulators web-site
(the block assignment). What is not is the numbers ported out of
this blocks and this seems more to be a concern of the providers
and not of the regulators.

The problem here is that this information hiding is more to other
providers and not to the public.

But then a non public Infrastructure ENUM does not help either ;-)
 
-sta
 
>Service providers may wish to control resolution to some
>degree although making the infrastructure ENUM Tier 1 inaccessible would
>not seem to be something the IETF would want to do other things being
>equal.

Penn

-----Original Message-----
From: Stastny Richard [mailto:Richard.Stastny at oefeg.at]
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 11:49 AM
To: Creighton, Tom; richard at shockey.us; Pfautz, Penn L, GBLAM;
speermint at ietf.org; enum at ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Speermint] Re: [Enum] How to correctly set up the request
URI?

>> > Yes. Again, there might be exceptions, for example a business might
want
>> > a URI with their name to be used and some SPs might agree to that,
but
>> > generally the point of infrastructure ENUM is to be invisible to
the
>> > user
>> >
>> Now the 64B question is the "infrastructure" URI invisible to the
global
>> DNS?
>Who has the authority to make that decision?  Is it the ITU, IETF, a
>combination of the two, or each country that opts to participate in
>Infrastructure ENUM?  I think that is the 64B question

?
I am confused
Could anybody please explain to me what you are talking about
I cannot parse this thread

What is the "point of Infrastructure ENUM"?
What is an "Infrastructure URI" and why should it be invisible?
And what has this to do with an enterprise specific URI?

-sta



________________________________

Von: Creighton, Tom [mailto:Tom_Creighton at cable.comcast.com]
Gesendet: Mo 05.06.2006 17:15
An: richard at shockey.us; Pfautz, Penn L, GBLAM; James McEachern; Lee,
Yiu; Stastny Richard; speermint at ietf.org; enum at ietf.org
Betreff: RE: [Speermint] Re: [Enum] How to correctly set up the request
URI?



Who has the authority to make that decision?  Is it the ITU, IETF, a
combination of the two, or each country that opts to participate in
Infrastructure ENUM?  I think that is the 64B question.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Shockey [mailto:richard at shockey.us]
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 10:48
> To: 'Pfautz, Penn L, GBLAM'; 'James McEachern'; Creighton, Tom; Lee,
Yiu;
> 'Stastny Richard'; speermint at ietf.org; enum at ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [Speermint] Re: [Enum] How to correctly set up the
request
> URI?
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pfautz, Penn L, GBLAM [mailto:ppfautz at att.com]
> > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 4:56 PM
> > To: James McEachern; Creighton, Tom; Lee, Yiu; Stastny Richard;
> > speermint at ietf.org; enum at ietf.org
> > Subject: RE: [Speermint] Re: [Enum] How to correctly set up the
request
> > URI?
> >
> > Yes. Again, there might be exceptions, for example a business might
want
> > a URI with their name to be used and some SPs might agree to that,
but
> > generally the point of infrastructure ENUM is to be invisible to the
> > user
> >
>
>
> Now the 64B question is the "infrastructure" URI invisible to the
global
> DNS?
>
>
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