Re: [gaia] An Internet Draft about Community Networks. A first question

"Jose Saldana" <jsaldana@unizar.es> Wed, 18 June 2014 14:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [gaia] An Internet Draft about Community Networks. A first question
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Hi,

We have a first question. We had some doubts about this: should we include in the draft Networks in which Wi-Fi is shared by individuals, but they are in fact managed by a company (e.g. FON)?

> >    There exist other networks, also based on sharing wireless resources
> >    of the users, but not built upon the initiative of the users
> >    themselves, nor owned by them.  The characterization of these
> >    networks is not the objective of this document.

As you may see, in the current version they are not included, but we have some doubts...

Jose

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: gaia [mailto:gaia-bounces@irtf.org] En nombre de Jose Saldana
> Enviado el: miércoles, 18 de junio de 2014 16:21
> Para: gaia@irtf.org
> Asunto: [gaia] An Internet Draft about Community Networks
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> After some weeks, we have been able to build an Internet Draft about Community
> Networks. At this stage we would like to hear the feedback from people in the list.
> 
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-networks/
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Jose
> 
> 
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] Enviado
> > el: miércoles, 18 de junio de 2014 16:18
> > Para: Carlos Rey-Moreno; Leandro Navarro; Carlos Rey-Moreno; Andres
> > Arcia- Moret; Marco Zennaro; Arjuna Sathiaseelan; Arjuna Sathiaseelan;
> > Bart Braem; Leandro Navarro; Bart Braem; Jose Saldana; Ermanno
> > Pietrosemoli; Ermanno Pietrosemoli; Jose Saldana; Marco Zennaro;
> > Andres Arcia-Moret
> > Asunto: New Version Notification for
> > draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-networks-
> > 00.txt
> >
> >
> > A new version of I-D, draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-networks-00.txt
> > has been successfully submitted by Jose Saldana and posted to the IETF
> > repository.
> >
> > Name:		draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-networks
> > Revision:	00
> > Title:		Community Networks. Definition and taxonomy
> > Document date:	2014-06-18
> > Group:		Individual Submission
> > Pages:		23
> > URL:            http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-
> > networks-00.txt
> > Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-
> > networks/
> > Htmlized:       http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-networks-
> 00
> >
> >
> > Abstract:
> >    Several communities have developed initiatives to build large scale,
> >    self-organized and decentralized community wireless networks that use
> >    wireless technologies (including long distance) due to the reduced
> >    cost of using the unlicensed spectrum.  This can be motivated by
> >    different causes: Sometimes the reluctance, or the impossibility, of
> >    network operators to provide wired and cellular infrastructures to
> >    rural/remote areas has motivated the rise of these networks.  Some
> >    other times, they are built as a complement and an alternative to
> >    wired Internet access.
> >
> >    These community wireless networks have self sustainable business
> >    models that provide more localised communication services as well as
> >    providing Internet backhaul support through peering agreements with
> >    traditional network operators who see such community led networks as
> >    a way to extend their reach to rural/remote areas at lower cost.
> >
> >    This document defines these networks, summarizes their technological
> >    characteristics and classifies them, also talking about their socio-
> >    economic sustainability models.
> >
> >    There exist other networks, also based on sharing wireless resources
> >    of the users, but not built upon the initiative of the users
> >    themselves, nor owned by them.  The characterization of these
> >    networks is not the objective of this document.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
> > submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
> >
> > The IETF Secretariat
> 
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