Re: [Geopriv] Our meeting today

[Marc Linsner <mlinsner at cisco.com>]

You asked the question why we're not making any progress.

> I am not sure whether this is the right approach given that we now
> understand some things better.
> 
> I don't want to be walking into the wrong direction just because some
> folks made a decision 5 years ago.

I agree that we should do the right thing.  My answer is to your original
question.  You seem to imply above that the guiding principals of the wg are
obsolete.  But they are still the guiding principles that MUST be either
followed or changed.

-Marc-

> 
> Marc Linsner wrote:
>> Hannes,
>> 
>>   
>>> After I left the room I had the impression that we did not spend our
>>> time as well as we could have done it.
>>> 
>>> We discuss various documents that have been submitted and some feedback
>>> is being provided. That's good.
>>> 
>>> However, we often avoid the controversial discussions at the meeting and
>>> drag them from meeting to meeting. This adds delays.
>>>     
>> 
>> A way forward maybe to stop revisiting our previous consensus decisions at
>> every meeting.
>> 
>> Example: At IETF69 it was decided that the Presence Event Package was the
>> choice for Geopriv for location. We now have a proposal to create a new
>> event package requiring us to revisit all the issues that drove the decision
>> at IETF69.  This is revisiting previous consensus.
>> 
>> Example: We have guiding principles that we agreed to - RFC3693/4.  These
>> documents state the rule-maker sets policy for location dissemination.  We
>> have a proposal to solve the 'OBO' problem that's runs afoul with these
>> guiding principles.  We are again revisiting previous consensus.
>> 
>> I think you get the idea....
>> 
>> -Marc-
>> 
>>   
>>> Is there the impression that we are unable to make any progress during
>>> the meeting itself?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
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