Re: [GROW] Discussion from today's WG meeting: ibgp scaling considerations

[Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists at gmail.com>]

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Christopher Morrow
<morrowc.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Robert Raszuk <robert at raszuk.net> wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> Danny's slides were not posted is there an internet draft documenting those
>> BGP "local" optimizations leading to system wide systemic issues ?
>>
>> What is the point of this discussion ?
>>
>> *A* To change reflector spec back to prohibit reflection of paths previously
>> received from the originating client ? Could such recommendation also take
>> into the account the impact for the reflector itself ?
>>
>> *B* To kill some other work (ADVERTISE_OWN) which while building on
>> reflecting back to the originating client due it's design not having
>> anything to do with plain IPv4/IPv6 routes - hence have no local PE box nor
>> system wide impact ?
>>
>> Can you or Danny clarify the point of the talk ?
>>
>
> I believe I can get the talk posted today... Hopefully also Danny can
> clarify some (which I believe he did on another thread as well).
>

note that Peter uploaded the slide decks...

-Chris

>> Cheers,
>> R.
>>
>>
>>> Today's WG meeting brought out some contentious discussion around this
>>> presentation. The summary for a portion of the discussion was that
>>> local optimizations in BGP mechanisms can often lead to system wide
>>> systemic issues. One comment was that a particular feature
>>> (advertise-own) ends up being used in 'internet' context where it's
>>> inappropriate. In this instance though, often the VPN providers are
>>> also running 'internet' as a VPN, to lower capex/opex and take
>>> advantage of their larger 'internet' platforms for smaller 'vpn'
>>> solutions.
>>>
>>> The discussion seemed quite contentious and like it may prove
>>> interesting to discuss here.as well...
>>>
>>> -Chris
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