Re: [hybi] New mailing list: hybi (HTTP "long poll" and related protocols)
Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> Mon, 30 March 2009 19:40 UTC
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Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:41:53 +0000
From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
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Subject: Re: [hybi] New mailing list: hybi (HTTP "long poll" and related protocols)
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On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Mark Nottingham wrote: > > As discussed in the APPS area meeting last week, a new mailing list has > been created to discuss the standards implications and actions related > to HTTP "long poll" techniques (e.g., COMET, BOSH) as well as new > protocols that serve similar use cases (e.g., WebSockets, rHTTP). Thanks! I notice the description of the list is "Server-Initiated HTTP", while at least some of the techniques proposed, in particular Web Socket, are only tangentially related to HTTP (WebSocket is a client-initiated Web-aware bidirectional socket, it's not server-initiated and the HTTP aspect is just an optional bootstrapping mechanism). Is the scope intended to include or exclude long-term discussion of such solutions? Also, what is the process by which discussion on this list can result in a standards-track document? Browser vendors have started asking me about implementing WebSocket or whatever replaces it, so a clear picture of how we get to something stable sooner rather than later would be very helpful. (It is an unfortunate reality that once we have multiple implementations of a feature, the spec becomes stable by necessity, regardless of whether we have had the proper time to review it or not.) -- Ian Hickson U+1047E )\._.,--....,'``. fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A /, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'
- Re: [hybi] New mailing list: hybi (HTTP "long pol… Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] New mailing list: hybi (HTTP "long pol… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [hybi] New mailing list: hybi (HTTP "long pol… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [hybi] New mailing list: hybi (HTTP "long pol… Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] New mailing list: hybi (HTTP "long pol… Peter Saint-Andre