Re: [hybi] Reliable message delivery (was Re: Technical feedback.)
Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org> Tue, 02 February 2010 01:25 UTC
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Subject: Re: [hybi] Reliable message delivery (was Re: Technical feedback.)
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Thomson, Martin wrote: > > If A wants to close the connection it does the following: > > > > 1) transmits 0xFF 0x00 to B. > > 2) Calls shutdown(SHUT_WR) on its socket (instead of close) > > 3) Reads anything else transmitted from B until it gets EOF, at which > > point it calls close(). > > > > When B receives 0xFF 0x00, it sends any remaining buffered messages and > > calls close. > > Anne's described solution works better. > > The 0xff00 frame is the indication that close() can be called > safely. Besides, it's two extra octets, hardly an imposition on > either end. The major cost on most networks is packet counts and round trips, not bytes. (Bytes of large messages, yes, but that is something else.) Anne's solution adds an extra packet, because Martin's can combine the first data and TCP FIN into a single packet, although it depends on TCP implementation as well as the TCP_NODELAY (Nagle) setting at that moment, and whether there is already other data buffered to send. The minimal version does not need a frame at all: 1) Calls shutdown(SHUT_WR). 2) Reads anything else transmitted from B until it gets EOF, at which point it calls close(). Meanwhile, B receives an EOF and calls close() immediately. That is fine for TCP; the 0xff 0x00 is redundant. But we must also pay attention to some important reality: There will be implementations which run over pipes (CGI), internal APIs and so on which don't support the half-closed semantic. There will be relays from TCP WebSocket directly to those other forms. It does nobody any favours to define a protocol which only works over TCP and forces those implementations to have to invent something extra and shoehorn it in. Note, there are some ancient TCP implementations which don't support the shutdown() call. That might be why it's not mentioned in HTTP. My vote would for an endpoint to be able to send *either* a close frame 0xff 0x00, or EOF as a result of shutdown(SHUT_WR), or both, as it chooses. Receivers would treat EOF and close-frame the same. (Though it should be considered how that would affect a simple WebSocket to CGI relay - the relay must parse every byte because of the sentinel-delimited frames, to inject/strip 0xff 0x00 where needed without doing so in the middle of a truncated message.) Please note: The close-frame is *not* for acknowledgement of prior messages. It is a mechanism to prevent closes from turning into "connection reset" TCP errors and the data-discarding behaviour. It would be *most unwise* of an endpoint to refuse to send the close-frame (or shutdown) because it was keeping it to acknowledge an expected message - because that would force the other end to keep a connection open for a long timeout, when receiving close and lack of an expected message is precisely a situation when connections should be closed quickly because an unrecoverable error has occured. -- Jamie
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