Re: [hybi] Reliable message delivery (was Re: Technical feedback.)

[Mridul Muralidharan <mridulm80 at yahoo.com>]

--- On Wed, 3/2/10, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs at apple.com> wrote:

> From: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs at apple.com>
> Subject: Re: [hybi] Reliable message delivery (was Re: Technical feedback.)
> To: "Pieter Hintjens" <ph at imatix.com>
> Cc: "hybi at ietf.org" <hybi at ietf.org>
> Date: Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 9:29 PM
> 
> On Feb 3, 2010, at 7:51 AM, Pieter Hintjens wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Greg Wilkins <gregw at webtide.com>
> wrote:
> > 
> >> I don't think you can assume that most websocket
> using software
> >> and/or subprotocols will have the same developer
> working on
> >> the client side and the server side.
> > 
> > I've never seen a protocol that makes this assumption
> and it is a
> > quite extraordinary one from the perspective of
> interoperabilty.
> > 
> > Ian, could you elaborate please?  I do not
> understand your intention
> > in making this statement, nor how significant it is to
> implementing
> > WebSocket.
> 
> The likely deployments of WebSocket are going to be one of
> these:
> 
> JavaScript code running in a browser --> browser's
> WebSocket implementation ====> WebSocket service that
> directly implements the protocol
> 
> JavaScript code running in a browser --> browser's
> WebSocket implementation ====> generic WebSocket server
> --> service code


Is hybi expected to be limited only to javascript or even browser based clients ?
I was assuming other clients might also be interested in leveraging it ? (if nothing else, for async notifications on top of http).


Regards,
Mridul


> 
> 
> Ian is saying that he thinks the JS code running in the
> browser and the specific WebSocket service are likely to be
> created by the same entity on some level, and he apparently
> thinks it is likely that many WebSocket services will
> implement the protocol directly rather than use any kind of
> framework or standard server. Note though that the browser
> code that implements the client side of the WebSocket
> protocol will almost never be written by the same party.
> Also, if the WebSocket service accepts cross-site
> connections, the assumption will not be true at all.
> 
> Regards,
> Maciej
> 
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