Re: [hybi] status of websockets drafts

Greg Wilkins <gregw@webtide.com> Mon, 03 May 2010 14:02 UTC

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Julian Reschke wrote:
> Just notices:
> 
> <http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/whatwg/20100503#l-206>
> 
>> # # [09:04] <micheil> Hixie: is draft76 going to become draft76 on the
>> ieft site?
>> # # [09:06] * Quits: othermaciej
>> (~mjs@c-69-181-42-237.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) (Quit: othermaciej)
>> # # [09:08] * Joins: mpt (~mpt@canonical/mpt)
>> # # [09:13] <Hixie> micheil: the ietf asked me to stop sending them
>> updates because they couldn't cope with the volume of updates, so no idea
>> # # [09:13] <Hixie> as far as i'm concerned, -75 is long dead
>> # # [09:13] <micheil> oh, righteo
>> # # [09:13] <Hixie> if i'd still been sending updates, -76 would
>> actually be like -90 or so by now
>> # # [09:13] <micheil> yeah, -75 is still the one supported by chrome
>> (and other clients), so it's the one I must have work
> 
> After all, there might be a compromise between "too many" and "too little".

At the WG meeting it was the consensus that there is value
in starting with a document that at least roughly matches the many
implementations already shipping.   -75 is approximately that.

-76 has some good changes in it, but it also has some breaking
changes to the handshake that I believe go a lot further than
was generally agreed.   They are also against the widely supported
requirement that the protocol be compliant HTTP prior to the return
of the 101 upgrade response.

So I think it important that any bulk changes to the draft
are comprised of changes that have rough consensus.   Changes
that are not agreed should not be bundled with a batch of changes
that are.

regards

Re: [hybi] status of websockets drafts Julian Reschke
Re: [hybi] status of websockets drafts Roberto Peon
Re: [hybi] status of websockets drafts Maciej Stachowiak
Re: [hybi] status of websockets drafts Maciej Stachowiak
[hybi] status of websockets drafts Julian Reschke
Re: [hybi] status of websockets drafts Greg Wilkins
Re: [hybi] status of websockets drafts Simon Pieters
Re: [hybi] status of websockets drafts Maciej Stachowiak
Re: [hybi] status of websockets drafts Julian Reschke
Re: [hybi] status of websockets drafts Greg Wilkins
Re: [hybi] status of websockets drafts Julian Reschke
Re: [hybi] status of websockets drafts Greg Wilkins
Re: [hybi] status of websockets drafts James Graham
Re: [hybi] status of websockets drafts Vladimir Katardjiev
Re: [hybi] status of websockets drafts Greg Wilkins
Re: [hybi] status of websockets drafts Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ)
Re: [hybi] status of websockets drafts Greg Wilkins
Re: [hybi] status of websockets drafts Bjoern Hoehrmann
[hybi] websockets & SPDY Was: status of websocket… Greg Wilkins
Re: [hybi] status of websockets drafts Dave Cridland
Re: [hybi] status of websockets drafts Julian Reschke
Re: [hybi] status of websockets drafts Greg Wilkins
Re: [hybi] status of websockets drafts Roderick Baier
Re: [hybi] status of websockets drafts Greg Wilkins
Re: [hybi] status of websockets drafts Mike Belshe
Re: [hybi] status of websockets drafts Maciej Stachowiak