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[Idr] IDR WG minutes
Folks,
Please review and comment for correctness. The deadline for
comments is Nov 21, 2005.
Yakov.
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Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 17:16:35 -0600
From: David Ward <dward at cisco.com>
To: <yakov at juniper.net>, <skh at nexthop.com>, David Ward <dward at cisco.com>
Subject: Notes from IDR IETF 64
Not much discussion this time ...
IDR IETF 64
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0. Doc Status
a. new draft to be reissued for 4-octet AS
b. AS Confeds - implementation report submitted and spec will go as PS
c. GR - post AD comments to PS
d. RR - have IESG comments, revised draft sub. and back to editor
e. 1863 went to historic
f. ton of stuff on editor queue (all to be pub'ed as package vs individual
docs)
g. MPBGP, Cease notify at editor
h. a lot no progress (see slides) due to lack of implementation report
Pekka Savola: what is status of BGP MIB v2
YR: no implemenation report ... no progress
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1. as 4 octet commmunity - Rehkter
no slides
Ext comm needs to be able to support 4 byte ASN ext comm
Existing doc removed language
New doc published for support (to not get in way of ext comm doc)
New doc produced via cut and paste protocol
It is currently individual submission
Could be WG doc but, it will sit until any implementations
Geoff Huston: It should be a WG draft
Take it to the list ... to be WG doc
1A. YR request from Tony Li to make AS hop count a WG document
sent to list and only got few replies asked room ... no concensus ... not WG
doc yet
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2. ORF groups - Hares
See slides for structure of UPDATE
See slides for usage scenarios
Geoff Huston: You have small parts of a boolean language ... why not go all
the way?
Sue: We were told during the last two meetings that we should shrink back
the functionality
GH: Just add groups in groups and go for full boolean logic
We have had a lot of arguments/discussion on this topic and request more
input.
GH: Can't determine beforehand how complex someone may want to get
Vach: What about other operands? E.g. "Not"
Need to see what you want or we are going full bore ...
Enke: If goal is to simplify config .. .but, ORF originally was not to
simplify config but, to improve performance. It is unclear how the config is
simplified.
Sue: It is an effort to expand power of config
Kireeti: The language is not boolean complete
Rudiger: The language helps the pain w/ config
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3. Context AF - Ward
See slides
Yakov: Clarification if we need to have larger work in IETF
DWard: It is not dependent on that work and can work with existing
technology
A document will be written that associates diffserv architecture to this
work.
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4. Enke Chen - Extended Open Parameters
See slides
Problem ... we are running out of capability space
NAME? How does it work w/ ORF
Enke: It should work just fine. I don't understand.
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5. Chandra Appanna - Aggregate Withdraw
See slides
Ron Bonica: Does this have a mechanism to prevent WD another's routes
Chandra: That is implicit in the protocol
Ron: Can it be propagated?
Chandra: Not transitive
Yakov: Could be made transitive
Chandra: Yes but, we don't pass along WDs today and thus, the draft keeps
Yakov: Time to WD could be plugged in today w/o Aggregate WD
Chandra: This is much more convenient given the other positive attributes
Pekka; if using SBGP or soBGP would it require special processing?
Chandra: No but, haven't thought about it much
Yakov: Please make it transitive. If you use communities, it will be easily
transitive. Do we need the others?
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6. Gargi - Tunneling applications
see slides
Yakov: Connector attribute carries a shortand for the tunnel, not just the
endpoint
Gargi: Yes
Yakov: It is even more than shortand but, a list of preferences for a set of
tunnels
Gargi: Yes, there is nothing in the draft that prevents this from happening
Yakov: Most work going on in L3VPN but, IDR will oversee
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7. Gargi - Multicast signaling using BGP
see slides
No comments
Out of Time .......
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