Re: [Idr] IPR related to the flow-spec I-D

[Thomas Narten <narten at us.ibm.com>]

[playing catchup now...]

Ross,

> The additional applications in the more recent Juniper disclosure are
> patents where the inventors have not been involved in the IDR working
> group, and are not authors of the flow spec document. Therefore the
> connection between the applications and the IDR document was not noticed
> until very recently (there is no requirement that all IETF participants
> pay attention to every document in every IETF working group just in case
> they happen to have IPR on it).  In fact the disclosure was posted
> approximately one week after the connection was noticed.

Thanks for this. To be clear, the above is 100% consistent with IETF
IPR rules.  Folks who hold IPR but are not participating in a
particular effort are not expected or required to make
disclosures. Again, disclosures are needed when:

   6.1.1.  A Contributor's IPR in his or her Contribution

   Any Contributor who reasonably and personally knows of IPR meeting
   the conditions of Section 6.6 which the Contributor believes Covers
   or may ultimately Cover his or her Contribution, or which the
   Contributor reasonably and personally knows his or her employer or
   sponsor may assert against Implementing Technologies based on such
   Contribution, must make a disclosure in accordance with this Section
   6.

And "Contributer" specifically refers to folk that are participating
in the effort.

Thomas