Re: [ietf-nomcom] Confidentiality and information from former NomCom members

[Ralph Droms <rdroms at cisco.com>]

I agree with John's statement: "In other words, 'deliberations and  
results' is about principles and process, not candidates."  I'm pretty  
sure that's the way the text has been interpreted by NomCom chairs.   
At some point, we should update the spec to match the running code.

- Ralph

On Jun 4, 2009, at 4:51 PM 6/4/09, Leslie Daigle wrote:

> I'm neither the author of the text, nor a previous NomCom chair, but  
> let me say that your characterization of the intention resonates  
> with my dim recollections from when the document was put together,  
> as well as discussions I've heard from NomComs:  starting up a  
> NomCom cold each year is a lot of overhead, and not every NomCom  
> will face precisely the same challenges.   It's good to be able to  
> draw on generalities of previous experience and actions.
>
> Leslie.
>
> John C Klensin wrote:
> > --On Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:23 -0500 Spencer Dawkins
> > <spencer at wonderhamster.org> wrote:
> > > OK, I'd really like for someone to tell us what this text was
> > > intended to allow, because I'm seeing a past NomCom chair
> > > saying that it's obviously broken, but the text is in the
> > > process BCP...
> > >
> > > :-(
> > I'd be happy to hear from  the author of that text (whomever
> > that might be), but I believe it is more or less consistent with
> > my earlier note:
> > Nomcom N should reasonably have access to information about
> > general criteria, decision processes, and procedures used from
> > Nomcom N-1 (and possibly N-2 and further back).  That
> > information may be used to inform Nomcom choices about processes
> > and criteria, but Nomcom N may also move in different directions
> > --at their discretion and within whatever constrains exist in
> > 3777 and its offspring.
> > Neither Nomcom N nor anyone else get access to information about
> > actual candidates, candidate statements, input about candidates,
> > or Nomcom discussion of candidates.
> > In other words, "deliberations and results" is about principles
> > and process, not candidates.  Otherwise, this text would be,
> > IMO, hopelessly inconsistent with the rest of 3777.
> >   john
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