Re: what's on the Internet

[smb at ulysses.att.com]

	 Mark:
	     
	     I agree some clarification will eventually be required.

	     My personal view is that you are on the Internet if there is an
	 all IP-links path that can be traced from your host to the NSFNET
	 backbone or one of its regionals.

	     If there are administrative gateways, like SUN.COM in the old days
	,
	 in that path, so that IP can't typically get through, that's OK.
	 My view is that you can still, via some means (e.g. loggin into the
	 admin gateways), use IP to get anywhere.

	     How's that?

	 Craig

I don't think that works.  Until (literally) a few days ago, I had
available three gateways to the Internet.  One I reached by IP; the
other I reached by Datakit.  They ran the same application-level gateways.
What difference did it make which I used?  None permitted IP-level
forwarding; all permit TCP-level (i.e., circuit level) forwarding outbound.