re: Renegade Dictators: IETF/IANA/ISOC/ETC

[Camillo Pasquariello <Camillo.Pasquariello at mci2000.com>]

HELLO BOB -

Mr Crispin's comment on IETF views concerning the US Government
[quoted below], is based on an inaccurate characterization of USG
policy, as well as pure speculation regarding the views of the
"majority of the IETF".

Even the most casual reading of the several official USG
pronouncements on Internet governance, should make it clear that the
USG has no intention of "running the Internet's affairs".

Further - your characterization of the I* bodies as "(Americans)" is
quite incorrect.

There is, in fact, a substantial non American (i.e. non-US American)
presence in these bodies. Take a look at the ISOC Board of Trustees,
and other I* leadership bodies.  Take a look at the IETF registrants,
sources of IETF postings, etc.

That said though - the more significant point, I believe, is that in
my experience, these folks who you choose to brand as 'renegade
dictators' are generally respected - world-wide - as major
contributors to the creation of the Internet phenomenon, and are
seriously concerned about its healthy further evolution.

C.Joe P-->
[USA Citizen *and* Netizen]

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Kent Crispin wrote:
>I suspect the majority of the IETF doesn't feel that it needs Ira
>Magaziner, or any other USG bureaucrat to run its affairs, either.

Bob Allisat replied:
"Interesting. IETF, IANA, IAB,
ISOC, IESG, ETC, organizations
made up of more or less the same
people (Americans) believe them
selves to be above any law. Even
that of the US which funded and
created their Internet playground.
Very amusing.

Now if these people feel their
own US Government has no jurisdiction over their ACRONYM activities
who does? It certainly isn't the so-
called "Netizens" who are *never*
given any opportunity to vote on
anything. Is it the UN? If The
Secretary General of The United
Nations issued a Paper calling
for elections, open public process,
accountability, wide participation,
etc. what would happen? I suspect
exactly the same thing. He/she would be told "Stay out of our
business".

So IETF/IANA/ISOC/IAHC/ITAG/ETC regard themselves as a sort of
overarchingand imperious cyber world government. They will take
direction from *no-one* and regard themselves as above any law not of
their own making. A pretty
chilling reality. It is imperative
that some group working in the public trust finally controls this
collection of totalitarian leaning technocrats
before they turn the whole Internet
into some sort of Virtual Gulag with themselves permanently installed
as info-czar leadership forever. And the 60 plus million rest of us as
are relegated permanent to info-serf
inmate status.

TeleVirtually Yours,

Bob Allisat

http://www.wtv.net
http://www.fcn.net";

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