Re: FW: APNIC's Censorship (Was: Re: Removal from APNIC lists)

[Karl Denninger <karl at mcs.net>]

On Wed, May 20, 1998 at 11:26:02AM -0400, Bob Stewart wrote:
> At 09:41 AM 20-05-98 -0500, Karl Denninger wrote:
> >This kind of "suggestion" is simply amazing, coming from someone involved in
> >a group which is supposed to be open, transparent, and operates to set
> >policy and procedure for things which are clearly in the public trust.
> 
> Being open doesn't mean that all your brains have to fall out and you have
> to allow noisy, persistent, foolish people to take over and ruin what you
> originally set out to do.
> 
> Wisdom and useful action come from wise, motivated individuals leading the
> educated and willing, not mobs or those with the biggest megaphone.
> 
> 	Bob

The concept that someone can use a "megaphone" to "drown you out" when those
who you consider "clueful" certainly have the ability to PERSONALLY not
listen (through filters, procmail, or just hitting DELETE) is a profound
statement indeed.

Frankly, Bob, you have to know you're misrepresenting things here.  I simply
fail to believe that you, or anyone else who meets your "clueful" criteria
is incapable of applying their own filters to prevent Mr. Fleming, or anyone
else, from taking up their time UNLESS THEY WANT TO.

Now, if you're in a public oversight capacity, there's a second problem -
you probably have a *duty* to at least read this kind of material, even if
you do nothing with it.  

Why?  

Well, think for a minute about what happens if Mr. Fleming is actually
right and at some point you're asked *why* you ignored him?

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