Re: CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS, PAPERS, PARTICIPATION: CDP/IOC'98

["Donald E. Eastlake 3rd" <dee at cybercash.com>]

I have believed for many years that meeting announcements on the general
IETF mailing list should strictly limited to IETF and ISOC sponsored
meetings. It is a simple application of the Golden Rule.  Anyone
considering posting a non-IETF meeting notice should consider what would
happen if everyone followed there example.  The answer is a decimation of
the utility of the list.  As Vernon says, when you get down to the one and
two day workshops, some of which have been announced on the IETF list,
there are *many* such meeting every days. 

Other organizations provide a variety of event lists.  See
<http://www.acm.org/events/> for example.

The case for announcements on working group mailing lists should be up to
the working group.  There might be a non-IETF conference highly relevant
to the work the group is doing.

Donald

On Mon, 25 May 1998, Vernon Schryver wrote:

> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 13:18:07 -0600 (MDT)
> From: Vernon Schryver <vjs at calcite.rhyolite.com>
> To: ietf at ietf.org
> Subject: Re: CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS, PAPERS, PARTICIPATION: CDP/IOC'98
> 
> ...
> 
> Isn't the main IETF mailing list supposed to be primarily and almost
> exclusively for IETF business?  Isn't such a meeting announcement for
> marketeers and managers completely beyond over the line?  Isn't it time
> that all conference announcements, calls for papers, etc. that are not
> directly sponsored by the IETF be declared spam when sent to IETF lists,
> and the perpetartors and their organizations be blacklisted by the
> mailinglist reflectors?
> 
> It's a scaling problem.  As network stuff becomes more integrated with
> the rest of life, more conferences, trade shows, tutorials, and so forth will
> be seen by their promoters as interesting to all IETF list subscribers.
> From the local newspapers in my area, there must be dozens of such meetings
> somewhere in the world each and every day that have something to do with
> network stuff.  Do we really want to allow every marketeer in the world
> do use the IETF lists as their primary bulletin boards?
> 
> 
> Vernon Schryver    vjs at rhyolite.com
> 
> 

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