RE: One-day pass

[Loa Andersson <landerss at BayNetworks.COM>]

Further,
it is fairly easy to become a "tourist". It is Wednesday afternoon, you have
attended (actively) the group meetings you planned to (more or less
actively).
Your next meeting is Thursday afternoon, so you slip into a meeting that is
kind of interesting, but there you (at lest not yet) have expertise or plans
to contribute that particular meeting.

So if you stay in the corridor you are a participant, while if you go into
the room you're at tourist.

/Loa


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Brim [mailto:swb at newbridge.com]
Sent: den 12 december 1998 02:00
To: Keith Moore
Cc: IETF at ietf.org
Subject: Re: One-day pass


Keith, I don't believe that was the original poster's intent.  If it is
the
case that people are coming for just one or two days, and are sneaking
into
meetings, the IETF could attempt to make some money off it.  You assume
that if the IETF sold one-day passes we would lose money because a large
percentage of the paying attendees would only pay for one or two days. 
Did
you actually do a survey?

...Scott

Keith Moore wrote:

> > So, I would like to suggest that we permit a one-day pass,
>
> This and other issues come up so often, that I'm starting to think that
> the IETF list needs an FAQ.  (why is our community memory so short?)
>
> Meeting costs are not even close to linear in the amount of time
> we spend at meetings.    We need the same number of meeting rooms,
> at approximately the same sizes, even if some people don't show up
> all week.  The cost of the cokes and cookies and badges - that is
> the cost per individual - isn't that big a percentage of the
> whole cost of holding the meeting.
>
> Worse, if enough people just show up for one day, then the hotel
> doesn't sell as many rooms as the contract requires, and IETF ends
> up paying more for the meeting space.
>
> And we already have too many groups working at cross purposes
> because of a lack of cross-pollenation...
>
> Keith