Re: IETF Adelaide and interim meetings for APPS WGs

[Jon Crowcroft <J.Crowcroft at CS.UCL.AC.UK>]

to people that think that the internet is mostly US centric, and will
go on being so, and that this is relevant to the IETF anyhow -
wrong, wrong, and also wrong!

um the Internet is now mostly commercial - the Eu and Asia each have MORE
money than the US, and also have growth economies. if you work for a
vendor (s/w, h/w, services) and can't find a reason to visit, then yo
uare missing an opportunity to "enhance shareholder value" - as a
shareholder, i would be shocked and dismayed....and think hard about
other vendors...

as an academic/researcher, too, generally, i can easly find good reasons to 
visit people with other viewpoints, and requirements and inventions...
 

note that microsoft and cisco (examples - there are lots more)
 both set up strong european presences
recently for these reasons. They also have strong asia/pacific
presence - 

using current IETF national representation as a marker for where to
hold meetings is going to lag, rather than lead the right thing to do
imho

note also, that provided the IETF doesnt start mimicing ITU in
choosing
meeting location, a lot of places outside the US offset travel costs
by cheaper accomodation costs.....significantly in some cases
(i admit london england is not a good example for this, though it is
pretty cheap to get to from just about anywhere on average:-)


 cheers

   jon