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% Bill: Could you clarify 2 things, if you know the answers to either? % % Valdis Kletnieks I was not present so I could not clarify. It does seem pretty clear that these days, "bad-ideas" are often floated and experimented with in other venues and only after vetting are brought to the IETF for standards approval/rubber stamping. It used to be that the IETF was the venue for exploring "bad-ideas". PreIETF oldtimers have noted that what was a bad idea a decade ago may be todays breakthrough. Hence tossing an idea once should not relegate it to limbo in perpetuity. (see John Klensins concept of using DNS classes. Last decade, a bad idea... now, a plausable avenue of exploration!) -- --bill
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