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% % I was not present so I could not clarify. It does seem pretty % clear that these days, "bad-ideas" are often floated and experimented % with in other venues and only after vetting are brought to the IETF % for standards approval/rubber stamping. % % in my experience, plenty of bad ideas survive such "vetting". % but those who bring them to IETF still expect the rubber stamp. % True. The point being that the IETF is becoming a "rubber-stamp" for work already complete. This sad state of affairs is, IMHO, part of the reason for the lack of tolerance. -- --bill
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