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> And yes, I've seen WG try and discard earlier work... I've seen them succeed, though perhaps not often enough. > (btw, whats the distinguishing characteristic between an "outsider" and an " > insider"?) I was remembering numerous instances when an organization would issue a press release of the form "we have protocol X, it's wonderful, and we're submitting it to IETF"...eventually sending in an I-D which either got completely ignored or (in rare cases) got published as Experimental with the title changed from "the X standard" to "FOOCORP's X protocol". Keith
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