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So there is an intentional culture of the internet??? I knew it...something more than a :). Is there truly documentation? liz walter Arizona State Museum Support Systems Analyst -----Original Message----- From: Dave Crocker [mailto:dhc2 at dcrocker.net] Sent: December 21, 2000 4:38 PM To: Ken Hornstein Cc: ietf at ietf.org Subject: Re: Handshakes Ken, et al, Humor notwithstanding, please note that I said "special", not "secret". That was quite intentional, and intended to reflect the considerable process and culture documentation AND willingness to teach them. (Yeah. We are and do.) d/ At 04:03 PM 12/21/00 -0600, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >Ken Hornstein wrote: >... > > >Being open does not mean that new arrivals are free from learning the > > >special handshakes and the technical peculiarities of our work; they are > > > > Hm, my mistake, I guess. I read on the IETF web page that the IETF didn't > > have any secret handshakes; I guess I was wrong :-) > >Do you seriously imagine we are going to *teach* you the secret >handshakes? :-) > >But seriously - yes it's hard, and it's probably harder than when I first came >to the IETF in 1992. It's the brightest collection of protocol designers >on earth (I'm not one of them) - it's never going to be an easy club to join. =-=-=-=-= Dave Crocker <dcrocker at brandenburg.com> Brandenburg Consulting <www.brandenburg.com> Tel: +1.408.246.8253, Fax: +1.408.273.6464
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