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The point being that if you have an arbitrary bunch of firewalls and NATs between any two points, then you are forced into telephone-like "call set-up" scenarios, which don't really scale to large groups, specially when the application consists of sporadic messages to arbitrary destinations. -----Original Message----- From: Keith Moore [mailto:moore at cs.utk.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 6:01 PM To: Bill Manning Cc: Keith Moore; David T. Perkins; Michael Richardson; ietf at ietf.org Subject: Re: [midcom] WG scope/deliverables > e.g. it takes (at least) two to tango... or peer. "at least". yes. Keith
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