Re: Last Call: Using SOAP in BEEP to Proposed Standard

["Marshall T. Rose" <mrose+mtr.netnews at DBC.MTVIEW.CA.US>]

> Reference [1] in draft-etal-beep-soap-04.txt is written
>
>    [1]   World Wide Web Consortium, "Simple Object Access Protocol
>          (SOAP) 1.1", May 2000, <http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/NOTE-SOAP-
>          20000508>.
>
> However, http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/NOTE-SOAP-20000508 is not
> a W3C publication; it is a submission by its authors, and has
> not much more standing in the W3C than an Internet Draft has
> in the IETF. At a minimum, the attribution of the reference should
> be fixed. The authors are Box, Ehnebuske, Kakivaya et al.

ok. it's easy enough to fix this.


> Perhaps the IETF document could specify how to BEEP as a transfer
> protocol for *any* SOAP-like protocol, but it's hard to imagine
> it being specific enough to warrant "Proposed Standard".
>
> To make progress, the IESG could publish "Using SOAP in BEEP" as
> Experimental, and move it to standards track once there's an
> appropriate reference for SOAP.

the document in question is 16 months old and forms the basis for many
implementations, products, services, and so on.

i think that those implementors would be somewhat confused by your view that
"it's hard to imagine it being specific enough".

in theory, i might agree with you; however, the practice is far different
from the theoretical perspective you suggest...

/mtr