RE: in memoriam
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RE: in memoriam
- To: "'Jim Fleming'" <jimfleming at prodigy.net>
- Subject: RE: in memoriam
- From: TOMSON ERIC <Eric.Tomson at siemens.atea.be>
- Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 16:14:34 +0200
- Cc: Fred Baker <fred at cisco.com>, Einar Stefferud <stef at nma.com>, "pdeblanc at usvi. net" <pdeblanc at usvi.net>, "@Quasar" <shore at quasar.net>, "orobles at nic. mx" <orobles at nic.mx>, "Elisabeth. Porteneuve at cetp. ipsl. fr" <Elisabeth.Porteneuve at cetp.ipsl.fr>, "edyson at edventure. com" <edyson at edventure.com>, "Eric. Menge at sba. gov" <Eric.Menge at sba.gov>, JandL <jandl at jandl.com>, "Jay at Fenello. com" <Jay at Fenello.com>, Jeff.Neuman at NeuLevel.com, "joppenheimer at icbtollfree. com" <joppenheimer at icbtollfree.com>, "krose at ntia. doc. gov" <krose at ntia.doc.gov>, "mcade at att. com" <mcade at ATT.COM>, "mueller at syr. edu" <mueller at syr.edu>, vint cerf <vcerf at MCI.NET>, "pindar at HK. Super. NET" <pindar at HK.Super.NET>, "linda at icann. org" <linda at icann.org>, "karl at cavebear. com" <karl at cavebear.com>, "quaynor at ghana. com" <quaynor at ghana.com>, "junsec at wide. ad. jp" <junsec at wide.ad.jp>, "andy at ccc. de" <andy at ccc.de>, "shkyong at kgsm. kaist. ac. kr" <shkyong at kgsm.kaist.ac.kr>, "hans at icann. org" <hans at icann.org>, "mkatoh at mkatoh. net" <mkatoh at mkatoh.net>, "ken. fockler at sympatico. ca" <ken.fockler at SYMPATICO.CA>, "f. fitzsimmons at att. net" <f.fitzsimmons at att.net>, "Amadeu at nominalia. com" <Amadeu at nominalia.com>, Woeber at CC.UniVie.ac.at, smlee at i-names.co.kr, Sabine.Jaume at renater.fr, rbeca at ctc.cl, "mouhamet at sonatel. sn" <mouhamet at sonatel.sn>, "jplano at quorum. com. ar" <jplano at quorum.com.ar>, jianping at sea.net.edu.cn, "hph at online. no" <hph at online.no>, "gvaldez at nic. mx" <gvaldez at nic.mx>, "cjw at remarque. org" <cjw at remarque.org>, barbara at gblx.net, arano at byd.ocn.ad.jp, "ant at hivemind. net" <ant at hivemind.net>, glaser at fapesp.br, "ietf at ietf. org" <ietf at ietf.org>, Ellen Rony <ellen at rony.com>
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Jim,
1.Please try to be more constructive on this mailing list.
2.Stop advertising America ; the Internet has not been limited to American users for years now (*).
3.In my humble opinion (only one 6.000.000.000th of the world's opinions) you can keep your opinions for you.
:o)
(*) please have a look at the ISOC web site and count how many non-american ISOC chapters exist in the world today.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Fleming [mailto:jimfleming at prodigy.net]
In my opinion, all of the IETF leaders, especially those who are U.S.
citizens,
should take a long time to take a long look at what they have not helped to
accomplish with their ICANN. The world will no doubt route around you
with the Next Generation Internet, InfiniBAND, etc. You can stand firm in
your convictions to censor and to restrict access to the legacy root name
servers, which are now largely irrellevent. As our President Bush and many
of the Congressional leaders have noted, Americans stand strong and will
move forward and will innovate and compete, and show the world they are
united. New.Net and other companies stand as a shining memorial to the
spirit of the American people and American ISPs willing to stand up to the
ICANN/IETF machine. You have not defeated us.
Jim Fleming
http://www.in-addr.info
3:219 INFO
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Baker" <fred at cisco.com>
> At 06:05 PM 10/18/2001, Einar Stefferud wrote:
> >What I think is a real shame is that ICANN might be mistakenly
> >considered by some people to to be a monument to Jon Postel...
>
> with all due respect, would you mind if I spent a few minutes thinking
> about Jon, the good things he did and left, and the good things we can do
> and leave while standing on his shoulders?
>
> Take this other stuff somewhere else. I don't need you to ruin my day.
>
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