Re: Re: A Stupid Ploy: Fwd: Who Is Bin Laden?
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Re: Re: A Stupid Ploy: Fwd: Who Is Bin Laden?
- To: "Einar Stefferud" <stef at nma.com>, <ietf at ietf.org>
- Subject: Re: Re: A Stupid Ploy: Fwd: Who Is Bin Laden?
- From: "Jim Fleming" <jimfleming at prodigy.net>
- Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:49:18 -0500
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Einar Stefferud" <stef at nma.com>
Hi -- I fully know that IETF folk do not want to clutter up the list
with political stuff, but... I think shedding just a little more
light on this one event should be OK.
---
Stef,
Nice research. I think it is also important for the ISOC and the IETF
to take stock of who it is who are "members" of its ranks. Many people
are not aware that, in the past IETF members, sent death threats to
people and their families. Apparently, during the ICANN TLD Application
process, people and companies, became the subject of "holy jihads".
Apparently the FBI was called in and reports are that much of the material
was "absorbed". It seems to me that the ISOC and the IETF can no longer
be allowed to harbor people who quietly (and not so quietly) work their
agendas against U.S. citizens and netizens of the world. Recent comments
like "slapped down" show that the IETF, like many large organizations, can
provide the platform upon which violence is breeded. In my opinion, that
is no different from the other platforms that the U.S. is seeking to
destroy.
Organizations that harbor terrorists are as guilty as the terrorists
themselves.
I think it is time for the U.S. Government to get to the bottom of just who
is involved in the so-called "Internet Society" and the organization called
the IETF.
Jim Fleming
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