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general availability has nothing to do with "being used" the OSI protocol implementations were available on all major platforms at the time. that didn't get them used by people. are you the same Keith Moore who hops around every time anyone goes near the end-to-end thing?? if "two ships in the night" is an acceptable transition strategy, then why did we place all the stupid compatability rules on the protocols?? this whole thing is intellectually bankrupt. many good ideas were shouted down because they didn't meet some Athenean standard purity, yet when the sanctified answer is found to have a much worse case of Failure to Solve the Real Problems, those standards are completely suspended and victory is declared again and again without regard to history. Ya know, if we'd just done TUBA, we'd have gotten to this degree of non-success MANY YEARS sooner and with a lot less wasted effort. then the effort and time would have been available to pursue a real Plan B. but that was then, this is now. In the movie "Animal House", in the closing sequence where the homecoming parade is being decimated by the unwelcomed arrival of a swift kick of reality, the Junior Deputy Chief of Truth Management is seen in quick cut after quick cut, jumping up and down, screaming "All is well!!!!" louder and with more anguish each time, until he's finally bowled over. What does this have anything to do with the current situation. Oh nothing, nothing at all. cheers, -mo
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