Re: S stands for Steering [Re: Should the IESG rule or not?]

[Bill Manning <bmanning at karoshi.com>]

On Jul 5, 2005, at 2:32, Brian E Carpenter wrote:

> Robert Elz wrote:
> ...
> > Also remember that "no consensus" in an issue like this, really needs 
> > to
> > mean "no authority" - if you cannot get at least most of the 
> > community to
> > agree with the IESG position, then the IESG cannot just claim the
> > authority and say "there is no consensus that we should not have it".
>
> I don't believe that is true in this case, as long as RFC 2780 is in 
> force.
> Especially since there is a clear path for Larry Roberts to ask for
> IETF consensus, which by definition would overrule the IESG.
>
>     Brian
	just for my edification, how is IETF consensus determined,
	esp. when there is a need to "overrule the IESG"?  in other
	contexts, this type of thing is done by a vote of the membership,
	but last i checked, there are no members of the IETF.

--bill

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