RE: I'm not the microphone police, but ...

[John C Klensin <john-ietf at jck.com>]

--On Tuesday, August 02, 2005 07:23 -0700 "Hallam-Baker, 
Phillip" <pbaker at verisign.com> wrote:

> Certainly there are bizare corporations attempting to achieve
> some sort of stranglehold. Anyone remember digital convergence
> and the CueCat? That type of behavior tends to come from
> market entrants rather than established companies. Once you
> have a stake in the open Internet the probability of success
> in a closed 'walled garden' scheme isn't high enough to be
> interesting.

At the risk of providing an irritating counterexample or two...

Please explain this to almost every wireless carrier in the 
world, especially those offering â3Gâ or similar 
Internet-based data services.   Established actors, significant 
stake in the Internet, but business models based on walled 
gardens.  A discussion with, e.g., AOL, might also be of 
interest.    These are, I would suggest, established companies 
and fairly significant market actors.

     john



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