Re: IETF Meeting Venue Selection Criteria

[Avri Doria <avri at acm.org>]

Hi,

It certainly makes sense to reword it for a pattern of difficulty or  
exclusion.

On any of these criteria, since this is the IETF, it might make sense  
to subject them to rough consensus criteria.  I.e a country that is  
being considered for a future meeting could be vetted on the IETF list.

Or they could be rephrased as guidelines to the IAD and IAOC assuming  
that they could use a reasonable participant criteria (similar to the  
reasonable man rule used in jurisprudence) for judging whether sites  
meet these criteria, with the IETF ready to comment once they make  
their recommendations.

a.

On 14 okt 2005, at 15.39, Bill Sommerfeld wrote:

> On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 11:58, Avri Doria wrote:
>
> > I think there needs to be some mention of requirements such as:
> >
> > - MUST NOT be held in a country whose visa requirements are so
> > stringent as to make it impossible or even extremely difficult for
> > some participant to attend.
>
> An important factor worth stressing, IMHO, is the time required to  
> apply
> for & issue a visitor visa suitable for a short-term visit.  If the  
> time
> required isn't predictable in advance and measureable in small numbers
> of months, that itself is a barrier to participation.
>
> But I might back off on a hair on the phrasing -- "several
> participants"?
>
> Let's be realistic -- we're talking about government bureaucracy here.
> Is there any country out there which doesn't occasionally "randomly"
> deny or significantly delay granting a visitor visa?  A single  
> incident
> ought not to preclude us from returning.  A pattern of exclusion,  
> on the
> other hand, would be a matter of concern.
>
>                         - Bill


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