Re: [IAOC] Re: The IETF Trust License is too restricted

[Brian E Carpenter <brc at zurich.ibm.com>]

Lucy E. Lynch wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Simon Josefsson wrote:
>
>
> > Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf at mit.edu> writes:
> >
> >
> > > > > > > > "Simon" == Simon Josefsson <jas at extundo.com> writes:
> > >
> > >    Simon> Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald at alvestrand.no> writes:
> > >    >> --On tirsdag, desember 06, 2005 13:07:50 +0100 Simon Josefsson
> > >    >> <jas at extundo.com> wrote:
> > >    >>
> > >    >>> I'd feel more comfortable if the outbounds right issue was
> > >    >>> settled, before all IPR is signed away to some external body
> > >    >>> that, to me, it seem unclear whether the IETF has total
> > >    >>> control over.
> > >    >>  Remember that it's signed away FROM bodies that the IETF has
> > >    >> NO control over.
> > >
> > >    Simon> My point was that before drafting what conditions the IETF
> > >    Simon> Trust should operate under, we should know what kind of
> > >    Simon> permissions we want the IETF Trust to be able to grant.
> > >
> > > I think it is sufficient the trust be able to operate under any set of
> > > outbound rights we come up with.
> >
> > That won't be possible, given the current (and even the updated) IETF
> > Trust agreement.
> >
> > The IETF may decide that third parties should be given rights to all
> > contributions, not only to RFCs/I-Ds.
> >
> > Currently, the IETF Trust would be unable to comply to such a wish
> > from the IETF, because the Trust agreement prevent them from doing so.
>
>
> explain please, I don't understand this.
>
> Straw man?

To me, the new phrase "IETF
standards-related documents (such as RFCs, Internet Drafts and the
like)" clearly covers contributions to the standards process, i.e.
the same scope as RFC 3978. I don't see a problem here.

    Brian


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