Re: Pre-picking one solution (Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail) (dkim)
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Subject: Re: Pre-picking one solution (Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail) (dkim)
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On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 06:35:47AM -0800, william(at)elan.net allegedly wrote: > Not necessarily. One of the proposals that went into DKIM had characteristic > of storing public key fingerprints in dns. This seems quite close to DK but > has a number of advantages and unlike DKIM or DK does not put serious extra > pressure on DNS infrastructure Unproved speculation. As you know, email, compared to HTTP and P2P (neither of which sought approval from the IETF) constitutes an increasingly tiny part of the Internet load these days. The serious pressure comes from applications that never came near the IETF. > like ip addresses (i.e. fixed size small data) would not work so well for > when data served & answer would either come close to or exceed 512bytes > UDP limit. Unproved speculation. As you know, 512 is not a UDP limit it's a DNS implementation limit which was long ago removed by EDNS0 - an IETF standard. The other minor matter is that the Internet is already participating in a billion+ DK signed and verified emails per day - I've been watching, but as yet, no news at 11. At what point do you expect the pressure to be noticed? William. I admire your interest in optimizing DNS load, but, as Knuth might ask, is it premature? If you think not, convince us otherwise. Mark. _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) John Levine
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Ted Hardie
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Dave Crocker
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Ted Hardie
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Dave Crocker
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Ted Hardie
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Eric Rescorla
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Dave Crocker
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Paul Hoffman
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Tony Hansen
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Dave Crocker
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Sam Hartman
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Eric Rescorla
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Dave Crocker
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Jim Fenton
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Stephen Farrell
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Stephen Farrell
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) John C Klensin
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Barry Leiba
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Barry Leiba
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) william(at)elan.net
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Dave Crocker
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) william(at)elan.net
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Ted Hardie
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Keith Moore
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Keith Moore
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Keith Moore
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Keith Moore
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Keith Moore
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Keith Moore
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Keith Moore
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Stephen Farrell
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Barry Leiba
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identi… Dave Crocker
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Keith Moore
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identi… Barry Leiba
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Frank Ellermann
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identi… Dave Crocker
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Cullen Jennings
- Pre-picking one solution (Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: WG … Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: Pre-picking one solution (Re: [ietf-dkim] Re:… Keith Moore
- Re: Pre-picking one solution (Re: [ietf-dkim] Re:… Stephen Farrell
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Keith Moore
- Re: Pre-picking one solution (Re: [ietf-dkim] Re:… Keith Moore
- Re: Pre-picking one solution (Re: [ietf-dkim] Re:… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Spencer Dawkins
- Re: Pre-picking one solution (Re: [ietf-dkim] Re:… william(at)elan.net
- Re: Pre-picking one solution (Re: [ietf-dkim] Re:… Barry Leiba
- Re: Pre-picking one solution (Re: [ietf-dkim] Re:… william(at)elan.net
- Re: Pre-picking one solution (Re: [ietf-dkim] Re:… Keith Moore
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Michael Thomas
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Dave Crocker
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Jim Fenton
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Jim Fenton
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- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identi… Dave Crocker
- Re: Pre-picking one solution Frank Ellermann
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) John C Klensin
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Dave Crocker
- Re: Pre-picking one solution Douglas Otis
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) John C Klensin
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Michael Thomas
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Timeframes & status for external … Andrew Newton
- Re: Pre-picking one solution (Re: [ietf-dkim] Re:… Mark Delany
- Re: Pre-picking one solution (Re: [ietf-dkim] Re:… william(at)elan.net
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Dave Crocker
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Keith Moore
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identi… william(at)elan.net
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identi… Nathaniel Borenstein
- RE: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- RE: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identi… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identi… Douglas Otis
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identi… Nathaniel Borenstein
- The Value of Reputation (was Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: … Nathaniel Borenstein
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identi… william(at)elan.net
- Re: The Value of Reputation (was Re: [ietf-dkim] … Douglas Otis
- Re: The Value of Reputation Frank Ellermann
- Re: The Value of Reputation Douglas Otis
- Re: The Value of Reputation (was Re: [ietf-dkim] … Hector Santos
- SIQ, SPF, BATV, etc. (was: The Value of Reputatio… Frank Ellermann
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- Re: The Value of Reputation (was Re: [ietf-dkim] … John Leslie
- Re: The Value of Reputation (was Re: [ietf-dkim] … John C Klensin
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- Re: SIQ, SPF, BATV, etc. Frank Ellermann
- Re: bozoproofing the net, was The Value of Reputa… John C Klensin
- Re: bozoproofing the net, was The Value of Reputa… John R Levine
- Re: bozoproofing the net, was The Value of Reputa… Dave Crocker
- Re: bozoproofing the net, was The Value of Reputa… Douglas Otis
- Re: bozoproofing the net, was The Value of Reputa… John C Klensin
- Re: SIQ, SPF, BATV, etc. Douglas Otis
- Re: bozoproofing the net, was The Value of Reputa… Dave Crocker
- Re: bozoproofing the net, was The Value of Reputa… John R Levine
- Re: SIQ, SPF, BATV, etc. Frank Ellermann
- Re: bozoproofing the net, was The Value of Reputa… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: bozoproofing the net, was The Value of Reputa… Dave Crocker
- Re: bozoproofing the net, was The Value of Reputa… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: bozoproofing the net, was The Value of Reputa… Dave Crocker
- Re: bozoproofing the net, was The Value of Reputa… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Back to chartering DKIM [was bozoproofing the net… Tony Hansen
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Russ Housley
- Re: Back to chartering DKIM [was bozoproofing the… Douglas Otis
- Re: bozoproofing the net, was The Value of Reputa… Dave Crocker
- Re: bozoproofing the net, was The Value of Reputa… John C Klensin
- Re: SIQ, SPF, BATV, etc. Douglas Otis
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- Re: bozoproofing the net, was The Value of Reputa… Stephen Farrell
- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Tony Hansen
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- Re: WG Review: Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) Ned Freed
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- Re: The Value of Reputation Jim Fenton
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- Re: bozoproofing the net, was The Value of Reputa… Sam Hartman
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- Re: bozoproofing the net, was The Value of Reputa… Tony Finch
- Re: bozoproofing the net, was The Value of Reputa… Eric Rescorla
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- Re: bozoproofing DKIM concerns Douglas Otis
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