Re: Trying to invent a way of determining "consensus"
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Re: Trying to invent a way of determining "consensus"



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Anyone who agrees with the CfC statement, and doesn't say anything, is fine, because the CfC doesn't need or want their support. The CfC will stand or fall based upon the size of the "disagree and replied" group.

That's pretty much how I've seen IETF consensus work over the years. As Harald said, a straw poll can be very handy in getting an idea how things are stacking up in the discussion, but the ultimate test is whether the residual dissent at the end of the conversation is important enough to matter. And that is the judgement that the IETF process leaves to the deciders (WG Chairs or IESG in most cases) following a Last Call message.

   Brian


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