Re: Proposal for keeping "free speech" but limitting the nuisance to the working group (Was: John Cowan supports 3683 PR-action against Jefsey Morfin)
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Re: Proposal for keeping "free speech" but limitting the nuisance to the working group (Was: John Cowan supports 3683 PR-action against Jefsey Morfin)



Masataka Ohta wrote:
Brian E Carpenter wrote:


A practice I used when I was diffserv chair and we had quite a lot
of off-topic postings was to create a second list, diffserv-interest
(which still exists BTW). The rule for diffserv at ietf.org was "must
be relevant to a chartered work item" and the rule for diffserv-interest
was "must be relevant to diffserv technology."


Though I never participated in diffserv WG activities, which was
chartered wrongly from the beginning,

As a matter of fact, I believe that the insistence of the ADs involved on a very tightly drawn charter was the main reason that the WG succeeded.

your chairing strategy

You mean the care we took to consider dissenting opinions before reaching rough consensus? Or something else?

explains why the result of the WG is technically meaningless.

That is a strange statement given the actual facts of implementation and deployment.

People only interested
in the standards work simply ignored the -interest list.


They ignored the -interest list and the technology.

Are you referring to the many vendors that implemented it, or the many enterprises that have deployed it?

    Brian


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