Re: [narten@us.ibm.com: PI addressing in IPv6 advances in ARIN]

[Peter Sherbin <pesherb at yahoo.com>]

Hi,

> Things work a lot better if IETF and RIRs work hand-in-hand - that is,
> IETF makes standards that people can work with, and RIRs use allocation
> policies that somewhat reflect what the protocol designers had in mind.

This is a proper model which should remain this way with a little fix. IETF
engineering effort is funded (indirectly) by the employers of the engineers. RIRs
administrative work is funded through membership and allocation fees, which
essentially equals selling of IP addresses. Because the Internet is a shared
resourse its enablers such as IP addresses are not for sale but rather for a free
assignment to everyone. RIRs function should be funded through a politically /
economically neutral body, e.g. UN. Technically the current way of RIR cost recovery
hinders the network neutrality.

Peter


--- Gert Doering <gert at space.net> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 06:03:22PM -0400, Bound, Jim wrote:
> > The IETF has NOTHING to say anymore than any other body about any RIR
> > policy. I want it to remain that way.  IETF job is a standards body not
> > a deployment body.
> 
> Things work a lot better if IETF and RIRs work hand-in-hand - that is,
> IETF makes standards that people can work with, and RIRs use allocation
> policies that somewhat reflect what the protocol designers had in mind.
> 
> For IPv6, this isn't a huge success story yet...
> 
> Gert Doering
>         -- NetMaster
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Hi,

> Things work a lot better if IETF and RIRs work hand-in-hand - that is,
> IETF makes standards that people can work with, and RIRs use allocation
> policies that somewhat reflect what the protocol designers had in mind.

This is a proper model which should remain this way with a little fix. IETF
engineering effort is funded (indirectly) by the employers of the engineers. RIRs
administrative work is funded through membership and allocation fees, which
essentially equals selling of IP addresses. Because the Internet is a shared
resourse its enablers such as IP addresses are not for sale but rather for a free
assignment to everyone. RIRs function should be funded through a politically /
economically neutral body, e.g. UN. Technically the current way of RIR cost recovery
hinders the network neutrality.

Peter


--- Gert Doering <gert at space.net> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 06:03:22PM -0400, Bound, Jim wrote:
> > The IETF has NOTHING to say anymore than any other body about any RIR
> > policy. I want it to remain that way.  IETF job is a standards body not
> > a deployment body.
> 
> Things work a lot better if IETF and RIRs work hand-in-hand - that is,
> IETF makes standards that people can work with, and RIRs use allocation
> policies that somewhat reflect what the protocol designers had in mind.
> 
> For IPv6, this isn't a huge success story yet...
> 
> Gert Doering
>         -- NetMaster
> -- 
> Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations:  88685
> 
> SpaceNet AG                    Mail: netmaster at Space.Net
> Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14      Tel : +49-89-32356-0
> D- 80807 Muenchen              Fax : +49-89-32356-234
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Ietf mailing list
> Ietf at ietf.org
> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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