Re: San Diego (was RE: Meetings in other regions)

[Brian E Carpenter <brc at zurich.ibm.com>]

Starting from Europe, San Diego seems to be no harder to reach
than any other major US city. The SPF route from Geneva
has two hops (e.g. via EWR or JFK).

I agree that major hub airports are a little easier to reach,
but maybe that's why we can get meeting space more easily
in non-hub cities?

    Brian

Burger, Eric wrote:
> I would offer that it is easier for me to get to London, Paris, or
> Frankfurt from New Hampshire than it is to get to San Diego.  LAX is
> marginally better.
>
> Chicago, Boston, New York, Toronto, Atlanta, and Las Vegas (!) are my
> easy, one-hop cities.  That said, it was fun driving to Montreal :-)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marshall Eubanks [mailto:tme at multicasttech.com] 
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:45 AM
> To: <Pasi.Eronen at nokia.com>
> Cc: ietf at ietf.org
> Subject: Re: Meetings in other regions
>
> Hello;
>
> On Jul 17, 2006, at 8:21 AM, <Pasi.Eronen at nokia.com>  
> <Pasi.Eronen at nokia.com> wrote:
>
>
> > John C Klensin wrote:
> >
> >
> > > It also means such things as:
> > >
> > >    * picking places within those countries or regions that have
> > >    good airports with easy (and multiple) international
> > >    connections.  Even San Diego is a little marginal in that
> > >    regard.  Based on experience in the last year or so, I'd
> > >    suggest that Cape Town and Marrakech (suggested in another
> > >    posting) should be utterly disqualified (although J-berg and
> > >    Casablanca are more plausible on this dimension).
> >
> > Some data about San Diego: Today, the flight information page on San
> > Diego "International" Airport web site shows a couple of flights
> > to/from Mexico and a couple to/from Canada -- all the others are
> > within US.
> >
> > When meeting in North America, I would strongly prefer cities that
> > have several direct flight connections from both Europe and Asia.
> > Of the recent IETF meeting places, San Diego is the only one that
> > clearly fails this criteria... so why are we going there again?
>
>
> Even direct flights within the US can be hard to find.
>
> Depending on where you are coming from, and when you purchase your  
> tickets,
> you may find it faster / cheaper / better
> to fly to LAX or Long Beach and drive down to San Diego. (LAX <-> San  
> Diego is ~ 200 km, and LAX
> is basically on the San Diego Freeway.) I did this for the one San  
> Diego IETF.
>
> If you do that, be aware that there is a permanent immigration  
> checkpoint on the
> San Diego freeway Northbound, which can cause backups returning.
>
> Regards
> Marshall
>
>
>
> > Best regards,
> > Pasi
> >
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