Re: [Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-carpenter-rescind-3683-00.txt]

[JFC Morfin <jefsey at jefsey.com>]

Dear Harald,
its seems that you are rewriting History (past and future) in the 
same funny way as before (eg. your PR-action letter). BTW I am happy 
to learn I am only suspended for 6 months from the obsolete 
ietf-languages at alvestrand.no. One month to go then.

Look, you have used RFC 3683 to DoS me, prevent the use of the 
"en-eu" langtag, make the IESG violate the WG-LTRU workable consensus 
I wanted and obtained, and confuse many to enforce your vision of the 
IETF. This RFC 3935 of yours vision where leaders like you make 
decisions to "influence the way the people design, use, and manage 
the Internet".

This was a cute trick. Making the most important architectural issue 
addressed through a confuse ad-hominem. Protecting your lobby from 
having to answer any technical point. But I am afraid this mostly 
disserved your positions. This is not the place for me to dwell on 
it. But we all experience that it hurts the IETF's credibility in the 
linguistic and political areas. Is that what you want? I do not.

I only want:
- interoperability between your UNICODE system for the IANA and the 
rest of our world,
- independence for the IANA without having to look for your "somewhere else",
- and the IETF to differentiate the English Globalization and 
Multilingualisation architectural layers.
or the IAB to say they do not want it. To document the http://bcp47.org site.

If you want me to pursue on the way you impose me, I will. However, 
is it your best interest? I will most probably continue to win, while 
we should agree and work together. Your decision anyway.

jfc



At 15:30 10/08/2006, Harald Alvestrand wrote:

> I regard a 6-month ritual of:
>
> 1) Unsuspending Jefsey from ietf-languages
> 2) Waiting until Jefsey discovers his unsuspension
> 3) Wading through Jefsey posts until everyone's sure he's still as 
> incomprehensible as before
> 4) Convincing my then-current AD that it's time for another 6-month suspension
> 5) Suspending Jefsey for another 6 months
> 6) Dealing with his appeal of the suspension to the AD
> 7) Dealing with his appeal of the suspension to the IESG
> 8) Dealing with his appeal of the suspension to the IAB
> 9) Dealing with his appeal of the violation of his human rights to 
> the ISOC BoD
>
> as a silly waste of energy, an affront to people's sanity, and 
> harmful to the IETF.
>
> draft-hartman-mailinglist-experiment  has been approved for 2 months 
> at this point. While it disallows procedures that suspend people 
> beyond November 2007, a procedure authorized under that umbrella 
> would be a much better first step.
>
> Don't throw away the umbrella because you're buying a raincoat next 
> week. It's still raining.
>
>                        Harald
>
> Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> > This is a personal draft written following some discussion
> > in the recent General Area open meeting. Comments welcome.
> > I am already aware that it needs to be reconciled with
> > http://www.ietf.org/IESG/STATEMENTS/statement-disruptive-posting.txt
> >
> >     Brian
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-carpenter-rescind-3683-00.txt
> > Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 15:50:01 -0400
> > From: Internet-Drafts at ietf.org
> > Reply-To: internet-drafts at ietf.org
> > To: i-d-announce at ietf.org
> >
> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
> > directories.
> >
> >
> >     Title        : Progressive Posting Rights Supsensions
> >     Author(s)    : B. Carpenter
> >     Filename    : draft-carpenter-rescind-3683-00.txt
> >     Pages        : 5
> >     Date        : 2006-8-9
> >
> >    This document abolishes the existing form of indefinite Posting
> >    Rights Action and restores the previous option of finite posting
> >    rights suspensions authorized by an Area Director.  It obsoletes RFC
> >    3683 and updates RFC 2418 and RFC 3934.
> >
> >
> > A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
> > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-carpenter-rescind-3683-00.txt
> >
> >
> >
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