Re: NOMCOM term limits... Re: Now there seems to be lackof communicaiton here...
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Re: NOMCOM term limits... Re: Now there seems to be lackof communicaiton here...



Noel - putting the control in any regulated entities hands would be a
staggering improvement. The IETF and IESG have degraded from an open forum
into a professional haven for standards jockey's. This isn't about fair and
open anymore its about who has the money to play.

Sorry but reality is what it is.

Todd Glassey
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Noel Chiappa" <jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
To: <ietf at ietf.org>
Cc: <jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:01 AM
Subject: RE: NOMCOM term limits... ations that share that initialism) is=20
> seen as a clueless joke, and the ABA leadership is a large=20
> part of the reason.

Arguments that begin 'some people say' are not particularly credible. =
The circles you refer to are partisan political organizations that =
object to the political positions the ABA has taken. The ABA is able to =
rebut the partisan attacks precisely because there is a large measure of =
internal democracy and accountability.

Now consider what the position would be if the ABA had a NOMCON type =
selection scheme. I think it is very clear that the system would not =
withstand scruitiny by partisan critics whose evaluation criteria are =
concurrence with their political ideology.

The actions of the IETF have rather wider impact than the ABA and the =
partisan criticism comes at the diplomatic level rather than national =
politics. It would be much better to be able to point to strong measures =
of accountability and democracy before the storm hits rather than being =
forced to introduce them under fire.

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