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More comments from Franz Kastenholz - fkastenholz at comcast.net (frank at kastenholz.org) 1) if i read this right, it is a way for one lsr to ask another lsr to test the first lsr's data path -- "can someone tell me if i am working ok?". _if_ my interpretation is right (and it is monday morning and not all the little gray cells are at 100% efficiency yet), it seems that this is a fundamentally stupid thing that the ietf should be standardizing, etc. 2) regardless of point 1, it looks like there are various bits of processing that have to happen here; but there is no talk about metering/prioritizing/etcing this traffic, leaving open a potential dos avenue. the security considerations section seems to hint at this (recommending that loopback labels be shared among trusted neighbors only). aside, this last comment _also_ opens a huge can of worms; who is trusted? how do i know? what filtering/etcing is needed to make the right things happen? f -----Original Message----- From: The IESG [mailto:iesg-secretary at ietf.org] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 6:04 PM To: IETF-Announce Cc: mpls at lists.ietf.org Subject: Last Call: 'Label Switching Router Self-Test' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-mpls-lsr-self-test) The IESG has received a request from the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG to consider the following document: - 'Label Switching Router Self-Test ' <draft-ietf-mpls-lsr-self-test-06.txt> as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send any comments to the iesg at ietf.org or ietf at ietf.org mailing lists by 2006-09-08. The file can be obtained via http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-lsr-self-test-06.txt _______________________________________________ IETF-Announce mailing list IETF-Announce at ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce _______________________________________________ Ietf maiFrom ietf-bounces at ietf.org Thu Sep 07 12:15:33 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GLMUN-0006xQ-75; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:12:27 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GLMNb-0004Oi-16; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:05:27 -0400 Received: from nj300815-ier2.net.avaya.com ([198.152.12.103]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GLMA7-0001T3-3h; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:51:32 -0400 Received: from IS0004AVEXU1.global.avaya.com (h135-64-105-51.avaya.com [135.64.105.51]) by nj300815-ier2.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.8/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id k87FgHND019630; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:42:18 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:51:27 +0300 Message-ID: <AAB4B3D3CF0F454F98272CBE187FDE2F0B32CD0B at IS0004AVEXU1.global.avaya.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: Last Call: 'Label Switching Router Self-Test' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-mpls-lsr-self-test) (2) Thread-Index: AcbIWnWYtUADf5wIRIyAZg08ozVq/wKOp7QA From: "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" <dromasca at avaya.com> To: <ietf at ietf.org>, "IESG" <iesg at ietf.org> X-Scanner: InterScan AntiVirus for Sendmail X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 3e15cc4fdc61d7bce84032741d11c8e5 Cc: mpls at lists.ietf.org Subject: Re: Last Call: 'Label Switching Router Self-Test' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-mpls-lsr-self-test) (2) X-BeenThere: ietf at ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request at ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Post: <mailto:ietf at ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request at ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request at ietf.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: ietf-bounces at ietf.org More comments from Franz Kastenholz - fkastenholz at comcast.net (frank at kastenholz.org) 1) if i read this right, it is a way for one lsr to ask another lsr to test the first lsr's data path -- "can someone tell me if i am working ok?". _if_ my interpretation is right (and it is monday morning and not all the little gray cells are at 100% efficiency yet), it seems that this is a fundamentally stupid thing that the ietf should be standardizing, etc. 2) regardless of point 1, it looks like there are various bits of processing that have to happen here; but there is no talk about metering/prioritizing/etcing this traffic, leaving open a potential dos avenue. the security considerations section seems to hint at this (recommending that loopback labels be shared among trusted neighbors only). aside, this last comment _also_ opens a huge can of worms; who is trusted? how do i know? what filtering/etcing is needed to make the right things happen? f -----Original Message----- From: The IESG [mailto:iesg-secretary at ietf.org] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 6:04 PM To: IETF-Announce Cc: mpls at lists.ietf.org Subject: Last Call: 'Label Switching Router Self-Test' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-mpls-lsr-self-test) The IESG has received a request from the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG to consider the following document: - 'Label Switching Router Self-Test ' <draft-ietf-mpls-lsr-self-test-06.txt> as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send any comments to the iesg at ietf.org or ietf at ietf.org mailing lists by 2006-09-08. The file can be obtained via http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-lsr-self-test-06.txt _______________________________________________ IETF-Announce mailing list IETF-Announce at ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf at ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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