Re: Something better than DNS?

[Brian E Carpenter <brc at zurich.ibm.com>]

Carl Malamud wrote:
> Hi -
>
> I actually think the question of how a namespace is to be administered
> is a perfectly valid one for the IETF to consider if it impacts the 
> performance or functionality of a protocol.  

Yes, as long as it can be expressed technically. RFC 2826 and
http://www.iab.org/documents/docs/2003-09-20-dns-wildcards.html
are good examples, IMHO. So was RFC 3177, although it needs
revisiting today.

> We do that all the time when we give explicit instructions to the IANA 
> in an "IANA Considerations" section.  The IETF could also do the same 
> in an "ICANN Considerations" section when it comes to the DNS.  

Actually, no. It is always IANA. However, RFC 2860 section 4.3
specifically excludes the IETF giving IANA guidance in certain areas.

    Brian
> Carl
>
>
> > Brian E Carpenter wrote, On 29/11/2006 10:43:
> >
> > > your question is linked to whether we treat the namespace as a public
> > > good to be administered for the greater public good, or as a
> > > commodity to be treated like coffee beans. And that really isn't
> > > a question for this technological community.
> >
> > Depends how you look at it. Technological choices do have an impact on
> > what the society is able to do (or not). It is up to the society to tell
> > the engineers what it needs/wants. But I agree there are other fora for
> > this.
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > ____________________________________________From ietf-bounces at ietf.org Thu Nov 30 05:32:09 2006
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Carl Malamud wrote:
> Hi -
>
> I actually think the question of how a namespace is to be administered
> is a perfectly valid one for the IETF to consider if it impacts the 
> performance or functionality of a protocol.  

Yes, as long as it can be expressed technically. RFC 2826 and
http://www.iab.org/documents/docs/2003-09-20-dns-wildcards.html
are good examples, IMHO. So was RFC 3177, although it needs
revisiting today.

> We do that all the time when we give explicit instructions to the IANA 
> in an "IANA Considerations" section.  The IETF could also do the same 
> in an "ICANN Considerations" section when it comes to the DNS.  

Actually, no. It is always IANA. However, RFC 2860 section 4.3
specifically excludes the IETF giving IANA guidance in certain areas.

    Brian
> Carl
>
>
> > Brian E Carpenter wrote, On 29/11/2006 10:43:
> >
> > > your question is linked to whether we treat the namespace as a public
> > > good to be administered for the greater public good, or as a
> > > commodity to be treated like coffee beans. And that really isn't
> > > a question for this technological community.
> >
> > Depends how you look at it. Technological choices do have an impact on
> > what the society is able to do (or not). It is up to the society to tell
> > the engineers what it needs/wants. But I agree there are other fora for
> > this.
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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