Re: Tracking resolution of DISCUSSes

["Tom.Petch" <sisyphus at dial.pipex.com>]

Who is shepherd for an individual submission?

Tom Petch


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey Hutzelman" <jhutz at cmu.edu>
To: "Sam Hartman" <hartmans-ietf at mit.edu>; "Henrik Levkowetz"
<henrik at levkowetz.com>
Cc: "Frank Ellermann" <nobody at xyzzy.claranet.de>; <ietf at ietf.org>; "Jeffrey
Hutzelman" <jhutz at cmu.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 3:31 AM
Subject: Re: Tracking resolution of DISCUSSes


>
>
> On Friday, January 12, 2007 04:04:08 PM -0500 Sam Hartman
> <hartmans-ietf at mit.edu> wrote:
>
> > Let me ask a silly question here: Why do we want to distinguish proto
> > shepherds from chairs?  I at least hope all my WGs will produce
> > documents.  That means most of my chairs will be proto shepherds.
> > Does the difference matter?
>
> I guess that depends on how much you want to depend on access controls vs
> people not doing things they're not supposed to.  I believe the process
> admits the occasional shepherd who is not a chair or AD; if nothing else, I
> could imagine a chair who steps down but continues to shepherd his
> documents which are already partway through the process.  Certainly not
> every chair will shepherd every document produced by his WG.
>
> So, a WG chair has certain rights with respect to documents in his WG.  And
> a shepherd has certain rights with respect to documents he shepherds.  The
> question is, is the difference great enough that we can't simply give all
> of those people the same powers, at least with respect to any given WG?
>
> Note that even if we just give all the shepherding powers to chairs, we
> still may need the concept of a shepherd who is not a chair, because I
> presume the tracker will inherit its idea of who is chair of what from
> other sources.  It may be desirable, both here and in other cases, to be
> able to give someone some of the bits that go along with a role without
> actually publishing their name as a point of contact.  Having that ability
> encourages people to delegate authorization instead of giving away their
> credentials.
>
> -- Jeff
>
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