Re: ULA-C (Was: Re: IPv6 will never fly: ARIN continues to kill it)
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Re: ULA-C (Was: Re: IPv6 will never fly: ARIN continues to kill it)
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Paul Vixie wrote:
<snip>
someone on ARIN PPML accused ULA-C (and therefore ULA-G) of being an "end run
around PA/PI" by which they meant "a way to get the benefits of PI without
qualifying for the costs imposed by PI on everyone else in the DFZ". i
realized in that moment, that ULA-G (and therefore ULA-C) is not an end run
around PI space, it's an end run around the DFZ. some day, the people who are
then responsible for global address policy and global internet operations,
will end the "tyranny of the core" by which we cripple all network owners in
their available choices of address space, based solely on the tempermental
fragility of the internet's core routing system. but we appear not to be the
generation who will make that leap.
I wouldn't be giving up that easy... still have time until march 2008
:p (old ipv6-wg, now v6man-wg timeframe for deciding upton ula-c/g) :)
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Paul Vixie wrote:
<snip>
someone on ARIN PPML accused ULA-C (and therefore ULA-G) of being an "end run
around PA/PI" by which they meant "a way to get the benefits of PI without
qualifying for the costs imposed by PI on everyone else in the DFZ". i
realized in that moment, that ULA-G (and therefore ULA-C) is not an end run
around PI space, it's an end run around the DFZ. some day, the people who are
then responsible for global address policy and global internet operations,
will end the "tyranny of the core" by which we cripple all network owners in
their available choices of address space, based solely on the tempermental
fragility of the internet's core routing system. but we appear not to be the
generation who will make that leap.
I wouldn't be giving up that easy... still have time until march 2008
:p (old ipv6-wg, now v6man-wg timeframe for deciding upton ula-c/g) :)
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Paul Vixie wrote:
<snip>
someone on ARIN PPML accused ULA-C (and therefore ULA-G) of being an "end run
around PA/PI" by which they meant "a way to get the benefits of PI without
qualifying for the costs imposed by PI on everyone else in the DFZ". i
realized in that moment, that ULA-G (and therefore ULA-C) is not an end run
around PI space, it's an end run around the DFZ. some day, the people who are
then responsible for global address policy and global internet operations,
will end the "tyranny of the core" by which we cripple all network owners in
their available choices of address space, based solely on the tempermental
fragility of the internet's core routing system. but we appear not to be the
generation who will make that leap.
I wouldn't be giving up that easy... still have time until march 2008
:p (old ipv6-wg, now v6man-wg timeframe for deciding upton ula-c/g) :)
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Paul Vixie wrote:
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someone on ARIN PPML accused ULA-C (and therefore ULA-G) of being an "end run
around PA/PI" by which they meant "a way to get the benefits of PI without
qualifying for the costs imposed by PI on everyone else in the DFZ". i
realized in that moment, that ULA-G (and therefore ULA-C) is not an end run
around PI space, it's an end run around the DFZ. some day, the people who are
then responsible for global address policy and global internet operations,
will end the "tyranny of the core" by which we cripple all network owners in
their available choices of address space, based solely on the tempermental
fragility of the internet's core routing system. but we appear not to be the
generation who will make that leap.
I wouldn't be giving up that easy... still have time until march 2008
:p (old ipv6-wg, now v6man-wg timeframe for deciding upton ula-c/g) :)
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