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On Wednesday 24 October 2007 14:01, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: > GPL would not be a criterion I would consider reasonable. And in particular > I would not accept the idea that the IETF or any other body be committed to > whatever notions insert themselves into RMS in the future. I have actually > met RMS. > > What I would like to do here is to arrive at a set of terms that is > considered to be sufficiently RANDZ to be sufficiently compatible with the > consensus amongst open source developers. At the moment I do not see a > consensus in favor of GPL 3.0. > > Having seen a WG crash and burn after theological discussions over open > source license compatibility I would like to see an IETF level consensus > that terms X are sufficiently open for most purposes. If someone had a > reason to beleive that these were not sufficient in a specific working > group for specific reasons these could then be argued in the WG if there > was a WG consensus that this was necessary. I'd say it entirely depends. I can understand not wanting to hitch your wagon to any particular individual's view of the future of licensing. OTOH, where GPL software represents a significant fragment of the internet landscape, you have to (I think) accept GPL compatible licensing terms or give up on interoperability. BTW, I think Yahoo!'s revised DomainKeys license solves this is a useful way that may have more general utility. Scott K _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf at ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf com; s=2007-00; t=1193252715; bh=ELJbNNwZ87GTMGjiLYs6RdcK6Xe4ULriXLFIBbR S/f4=; h=Received:From:Organization:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent: References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id: X-AV-Checked; b=FmdAwTJMeHaK5y1YA/pKeFqvs3rsMdySEC8eofyQ//zVA4pOJ1 iNFFH4r3iKNkRB6Qc/JhaFwhjVVCLX7Z2cwctJV6eazs57h6xGo4k/Kdedk52Bdwq8y Mg6eViCRz7KQoLzNLkPyGfG8ha8Fi+NEoa/Pb2u0KvZ4sLW2C5mO0Q= Received: from [192.168.111.102] (static-72-81-252-22.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net [72.81.252.22]) by mailout00.controlledmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0475CC08D for <ietf at ietf.org>; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:05:15 +0000 (UTC) From: Scott Kitterman <scott at kitterman.com> Organization: Kitterman Technical Services To: ietf at ietf.org Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:05:12 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <E1IaIjf-0008OK-Bi at megatron.ietf.org> <200710241133.41148.scott at kitterman.com> <2788466ED3E31C418E9ACC5C31661557084F05 at mou1wnexmb09.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> In-Reply-To: <2788466ED3E31C418E9ACC5C31661557084F05 at mou1wnexmb09.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200710241505.13295.scott at kitterman.com> X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: ffa9dfbbe7cc58b3fa6b8ae3e57b0aa3 Subject: Re: A priori IPR choices X-BeenThere: ietf at ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request at ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Post: <mailto:ietf at ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request at ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request at ietf.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: ietf-bounces at ietf.org On Wednesday 24 October 2007 14:01, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: > GPL would not be a criterion I would consider reasonable. And in particular > I would not accept the idea that the IETF or any other body be committed to > whatever notions insert themselves into RMS in the future. I have actually > met RMS. > > What I would like to do here is to arrive at a set of terms that is > considered to be sufficiently RANDZ to be sufficiently compatible with the > consensus amongst open source developers. At the moment I do not see a > consensus in favor of GPL 3.0. > > Having seen a WG crash and burn after theological discussions over open > source license compatibility I would like to see an IETF level consensus > that terms X are sufficiently open for most purposes. If someone had a > reason to beleive that these were not sufficient in a specific working > group for specific reasons these could then be argued in the WG if there > was a WG consensus that this was necessary. I'd say it entirely depends. I can understand not wanting to hitch your wagon to any particular individual's view of the future of licensing. OTOH, where GPL software represents a significant fragment of the internet landscape, you have to (I think) accept GPL compatible licensing terms or give up on interoperability. BTW, I think Yahoo!'s revised DomainKeys license solves this is a useful way that may have more general utility. Scott K _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf at ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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