RE: Patents can be for good, not only evil

To: lrosen at rosenlaw.com, ietf at ietf.org
Subject: RE: Patents can be for good, not only evil
From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald at alvestrand.no>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:29:41 -0700
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--On 29. oktober 2007 17:53 -0700 Lawrence Rosen <lrosen at rosenlaw.com> wrote:


The notion that each IETF working group has to approach patent issues on
its own, without help, is silly.


It's also a straw man.

RFC 3669. You may argue that we can do better, but the argument that there is "no help" is silly.


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