Re: Hallam-Baker's First Law of Internet Lawyering Was: The Sgt at Arms Please? RE: TLS-authz "experimental" standard

["TS Glassey" <tglassey at earthlink.net>]

Title: Re: The Sgt at Arms Please? RE: TLS-authz "experimental" standard

Phillip -

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Hallam-Baker, Phillip

To: TS Glassey ; dcrocker at bbiw.net ; Theodore Tso

Cc: ietf at ietf.org

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:51 AM

Subject: Hallam-Baker's First Law of Internet Lawyering Was: The Sgt at Arms Please? RE: TLS-authz "experimental" standard

Well I found it somewhat interesting that despite the fact that I was the only person to co-author a submission to the IPR working group with an actual lawyer I still received comments of the 'amateur lawyering kind' from folk who were not lawyers and whose legalistic opinions had been flat contradicted by those who are.

 

 it is funny since Michael Baum used to refer to you as his IP law resource :-)

 

So without more ado:

 

First Law of Internet Lawyering: Anyone who accuses another of being insufficiently qualified to state a legal opinion will in the same thread state a legal opinion that they are not qualified to make.

 

Second Law of Internet Lawyering: Both opinions will be wrong

 

Third Law of Internet Lawyering: It won't matter.

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From: TS Glassey [mailto:tglassey at earthlink.net]
Sent: Tue 15/01/2008 1:05 PM
To: dcrocker at bbiw.net; Theodore Tso
Cc: ietf at ietf.org
Subject: Re: The Sgt at Arms Please? RE: TLS-authz "experimental" standard

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Crocker" <dhc2 at dcrocker.net>
To: "Theodore Tso" <tytso at MIT.EDU>
Cc: <ietf at ietf.org>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: The Sgt at Arms Please? RE: TLS-authz "experimental" standard


>
>
> Theodore Tso wrote:
>> Actually, to be fair, I don't think this can be laid at the feet of
>> the FSF.  Todd Glassey replied to a message approximately 3 months old
>> with some legal reasoning that at best seems highly contorted, and at
>> worst total nonsense.

I love technololgists who claim their view of Law is the right on. Are you
suggesting we should resolve this in a court of law Dave?

>
>
> All of which raises the deeper question of why serious people are
> consuming the ietf mailing list posting responses to it.

Or perhaps a better quesiton is what the actual loading it created since you
labeled it as "consuming" the list's available bandwidth.

>
> d/
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