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Hi Dave, At 13:08 23-06-2008, Dave Crocker wrote:
For rfc2821bis, there was, in fact, an established discussion venue, and it long-standing and quite well known to the email community, namely ietf-smtp at imc.org.It could only have helped for that venue to have been known to others, particularly if folks wanted to pursue a "community" discussion about a concern with the draft.
Section 1.2 of the draft specifies where the document was being discussed. I assume that people commenting on the draft would have read that.
Regards,-sm
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Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qETOWW8vLNu3 for <ietf at core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.qubic.net (ns1.qubic.net [208.69.177.116]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987A23A6934 for <ietf at ietf.org>; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from subman.resistor.net ([10.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.qubic.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m5QIOYtf001255 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:24:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=resistor.net; s=mail; t=1214504683; x=1214591083; bh=tz9PdWpd7VWzBGNWPl/E958iwUrv4A1zZ3G5 axHQ3mo=; h=Message-Id:Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To: References:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=F98CfNA7C6kUuTJzj3GbTi46BT qe8kdR0g1RuPQcwem1SN8/zX1xSqIwy0bbA0+HTwHYBhZ7q2ysyKv8coGJvCPkjTSqa d81ZYbsOMdPSZxhHxniiwD+bsSr1hWtXysu1GHjTCqnn6nrhgbiEYzwGtHty1Rt9i3z ApgL9zSf3j4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=mail; d=resistor.net; c=simple; q=dns; b=QbuqBgDQNSz0s/ju9wYoyIHHFl9NNfd5FHOA0t05c3MhGw6sfNe3m9cy80EEKef2M kGnPDoQXt4fdt8HXOvMLuHA5kJhtpSdBL6IVJPj5J8Wk0XtKXHV+u7hKy7Bc1dhrdhC RRawcdnvppeU1FXSJILvgrOTq1Qk2E+mJz6mqNo= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20080626111448.02cd7810 at resistor.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:17:47 -0700 To: dcrocker at bbiw.net From: SM <sm at resistor.net> Subject: Re: Appeal against IESG blocking DISCUSS on draft-klensin-rfc2821bis In-Reply-To: <486002D3.9030900 at dcrocker.net> References: <8832006D4D21836CBE6DB469 at klensin-asus.vbn.inter-touch.net> <485590E2.3080107 at gmail.com> <p06250116c47c330c7dd0 at [75.145.176.242]> <4856DE3A.3090804 at gmail.com> <C122F91B-59B0-49AC-ABBC-6752217C4E47 at NOKIA.COM> <20080619024147.9146C3A6938 at core3.amsl.com> <485A353B.30403 at dcrocker.net> <20080619175645.0CA443A68C2 at core3.amsl.com> <485FCAAF.9070808 at dcrocker.net> <200806231250.m5NCnuGh024638 at sbh17.songbird.com> <486002D3.9030900 at dcrocker.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: ietf at ietf.org X-BeenThere: ietf at ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Discussion <ietf.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request at ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/pipermail/ietf> List-Post: <mailto:ietf at ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request at ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request at ietf.org?subject=subscribe> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: ietf-bounces at ietf.org Errors-To: ietf-bounces at ietf.org Hi Dave, At 13:08 23-06-2008, Dave Crocker wrote:
For rfc2821bis, there was, in fact, an established discussion venue, and it long-standing and quite well known to the email community, namely ietf-smtp at imc.org.It could only have helped for that venue to have been known to others, particularly if folks wanted to pursue a "community" discussion about a concern with the draft.
Section 1.2 of the draft specifies where the document was being discussed. I assume that people commenting on the draft would have read that.
Regards,-sm
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